How to Determine Resistive Force and Engine Power at Different Speeds?

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The discussion revolves around determining the resistive force acting on an automobile and the engine power required at different speeds. The context involves concepts from mechanics, specifically relating to power, force, and velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between power, force, and velocity, with attempts to calculate resistive force and engine power. Some express confusion over the equations needed and the assumptions regarding proportionality between force and velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between force and velocity, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or calculations yet.

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There is a noted confusion about the calculations and the assumptions regarding the resistive force at different speeds. Participants are also working within the constraints of their textbook knowledge and prior lessons.

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1. The engine of an automobile requires 45hp to maintain a constant speed of 80 km/h

a. What is the resistive force against the automobile?
The answer given here is 1510.80N but don't know how they get it.

b. If the resistive force is proportional to the velocity, what must the engine power be to drive at constant speed of 60km/h?


2. I have no idea

3. at letter a. i tried to convert 45hp to 33556.49J/s and converted also 80km/h to 22.22 m/s, after that I divided 33556.49J/s to 22.22 m/s and got an answer 1510.19 N. The letter b. I have no idea
 
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I see you figured out (a) based on looking at units. There is also an equation that relates power, force and velocity that should be in your textbook.

For (b), here are 2 facts known to you:

1. Force is proportional to velocity.
2. When the velocity is 80 km/hr, the force is 1510 N.

Use those 2 facts can be used to determine the relationship between force and velocity for this automobile.
 
so i will be finding what? I think its power.. i am confused to the equation i will be using.. i kinda do trial and error xD
 
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sanisydap said:
so i will be finding what? I think its power..
Re-read what question (a) is asking. (Hint: not power)
i am confused to the equation i will be using.. i kinda do trial and error xD
Try looking in your textbook and class notes and see what equation would relate power, force and velocity.
 
I think i got it now..so question b . is asking about the engine power at 60km/h .. then i got a force of 1510.19N, convert 60 km/h to 16.67m/s and multiplied them, then the answer would be 25,174.87 J/s.. i think hehehe
 
No, the force is 1510 N when the speed is 80 km/h, but now (in question b) it is 60 km/h. So the force will be less than 1510 N.

Redbelly98 said:
For (b), here are 2 facts known to you:

1. Force is proportional to velocity.
2. When the velocity is 80 km/hr, the force is 1510 N.
Can you set up an equation expressing the proportional relation between force and velocity?
 

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