How to Factor Polynomial Equations

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of factoring polynomial equations, specifically focusing on various types of polynomials such as cubic and higher-degree expressions. Participants share their experiences and difficulties with factoring techniques and seek alternative explanations or methods to improve their understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss specific polynomials they find challenging, such as x^3+x^2-4x-4 and x^8-1. Some suggest guessing factors or using polynomial division as a strategy. Others explore grouping terms and factoring by common factors. Questions arise about identifying common factors and the applicability of the remainder theorem.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants expressing newfound understanding of certain problems while others continue to struggle with specific polynomials. Guidance has been offered regarding grouping and the use of the remainder theorem, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approaches for all cases discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants express frustration with factoring, indicating a lack of confidence despite having a strong background in other areas of mathematics. There is mention of imposed homework rules and the expectation to find solutions independently, which may contribute to the challenges faced.

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I don't know why but I have a lot of trouble factoring. After 3 years of it I would expect to be a lot better at it but I still find it as hard as when I first learned it. I am just wondering if anyone here can help me understand it a little different then my teachers have.

To date I think I finally understand stuff like
2x^2-2x-12
x^3-5x^2-6x
5x^3-45x

The stuff I am having trouble with is things like this
x^3+x^2-4x-4
x^8-1
2m(m-n) + (m+n)(m-n)

Is there any certain rules or guidelines I may be able to follow to make these kind of questions easier. Right now I am not really sure how to start them.
 
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For the first one if you can't factor it, then guess a factor and divide the polynomial by that factor to get a quadratic.

The second one seems pretty straightfoward... what have you tried?

In the third one, what is the common factor in both terms?
 
The first one I understand now, I get (x+1)(x+2)(x-2)

The second one I am still not really sure

Here is the third one I think
(m-n)[2m + (m+n)]
(3m+n)(m-n)
 
The Matador said:
I don't know why but I have a lot of trouble factoring. After 3 years of it I would expect to be a lot better at it but I still find it as hard as when I first learned it. I am just wondering if anyone here can help me understand it a little different then my teachers have.

To date I think I finally understand stuff like
2x^2-2x-12
x^3-5x^2-6x
5x^3-45x

The stuff I am having trouble with is things like this
x^3+x^2-4x-4
x^8-1
2m(m-n) + (m+n)(m-n)

Is there any certain rules or guidelines I may be able to follow to make these kind of questions easier. Right now I am not really sure how to start them.
I HATE factoring. I am great at all math I have ever tried(literally) and got a D on a factoring test. any thing beyond the complexity of x2 +ax +b i fail at. once x2 has a coefficient I fail miserably
 
In order to understand the 3rd line better, Ill explain another way to factor the 1st line. You can group x^3 with x^2 and -4x with -4. Then you can factor each piece and youre left with:
x^2(x+1) -4(x+1)
This form is very similar to that third line. Next, you treat x^2 and -4 as coeffieients and factor out an (x+1) from both terms:
(x+1)(x^2 - 4) This can then be reduced to what you got, and the third line also looks good

But youre having the most trouble with the second line, x^8 - 1. Both terms are perfect squares. Whats the square root of x^8? Are you done after that, or can it be factored further?
 
For problems where you know there is an easy answer (otherwise you wouldn't have been asked the question!) this often helps:

If you want to factor ax^n \pm \dots \pm b then for a factor of the form px \pm q it is a good bet that p is a factor of a, and q is a factor of b.

Also, use the remainder theorem: if (x-a) is a factor, the polynomial is zero when x = a. So in the x^3+x^2-4x-4 example it's fairly obvious the polynomial is zero when x = -1 therefore (x+1) is a factor.
 

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