How to find torque on planet carrier

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The discussion revolves around calculating the torque on a planet carrier in an epicyclic gear train, given specific data about angular speeds and torques on the ring and sun gears. The scope includes technical reasoning and mathematical calculations related to gear systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents data on angular speeds and torques for the ring and sun gears and asks how to find the torque on the planet carrier.
  • Another participant suggests that the ring and sun are inputs while the carrier is the output, proposing a power balance approach to relate the inputs and outputs.
  • A third participant provides a reference article that may assist in understanding the calculations involved.
  • A different participant calculates the power for the sun and ring gears but notes uncertainty regarding the direction of the torque, leading to two possible solutions for the torque on the carrier based on energy flow analysis.

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Participants express differing views on the direction of torque and its implications for the calculations, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct approach to finding the torque on the planet carrier.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about the direction of the torques, which affects the calculations. Additionally, the assumptions regarding gear ratios and the efficiency of the system are not fully explored.

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I have the following data in an epicyclic gear train:

Angular speed on ring = 1500 rpm, teeth on ring = 30
Angular speed on sun = 3200 rpm, teeth on sun = 10
Angular speed on carrier = 1925 rpm, teeth on planets = 10

(The ratios of teeth are for simple calculation assumed 3: 1: 1 among ring, sun and carrier.)

Now,

torque on ring = 190 Nm
torque on sun = 50 Nm

How do I find the torque on the planet carrier?
 
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Hi Csidd,

A question for you; when you mention that there are torques on the ring and sun gears, does this mean that they are the two inputs to the system and that the carrier is the output? If so I think you can use a power balance. Ideally, power out = power in. Not ideally, power out = efficiency*power in. Also, can you specify the directions of the rotations?
 
I have not checked your gear ratios and relative RPMs.
Analyse the energy flow per minute.
power = rpm * torque

Wsun = 3200 * 50 = 160 k
Wring = 1500 * 190 = 285 k

The problem is that we do not know the direction of the torque.

There are two possible solutions.
The sum = 445 k
445 k / 1925 = 231. 169 Nm

The difference = 125 k
125 k / 1925 = 64.93 Nm
 

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