How to Form a Quadratic Equation with Coefficients in AP and Integer Roots?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around forming a quadratic equation of the form $ax^2 + bx + c = 0$ where the coefficients $a$, $b$, and $c$ are in arithmetic progression (AP) and the equation has integer roots. Participants explore the conditions under which these criteria are satisfied, including specific values for the coefficients and the implications of those values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests setting $a = 1$ for convenience and derives that the quadratic has integer roots if $b^2 - 4c$ is a perfect square, leading to specific forms for $b$ and $c$ based on a nonzero integer $k$.
  • Another participant reiterates the same approach, confirming that $b = 1 + k$ and $c = 1 + 2k$, and identifies $k = 7$ as yielding a valid solution, $x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0$, with integer roots $-5$ and $-3$.
  • Further exploration is proposed to find a systematic way to choose $k$ and to investigate whether there are infinitely many solutions for any nonzero $a$.
  • One participant claims that aside from the identified solution, there is only one other solution when $a$, $b$, and $c$ are integers, and discusses the implications of $a$ and $k$ having a common factor.
  • Another participant elaborates on the conditions under which the sum of the roots remains an integer, leading to a discussion of the expression under the square root and its relation to integer values.
  • Factorizations of 12 are examined to find integer solutions for $m$ and $n$, leading to the identification of additional values for $k$ and corresponding quadratic equations.
  • One participant notes that their solution is the same as another's but begins from a different starting point, indicating a shared understanding but potentially differing methodologies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical framework for forming the quadratic equation and the conditions for integer roots. However, there are multiple approaches and some disagreement regarding the uniqueness of solutions and the implications of the common factors of $a$ and $k$.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the systematic selection of $k$ and whether there are infinitely many solutions for any nonzero $a$. The discussion also highlights dependencies on the assumptions regarding integer values and coprimality.

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form a quadratic equation $ax^2 + bx + c = 0$ such that a,b,c are in AP and it has got integer roots
 
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Set $a = 1$ for convenience. Then the quadratic has integer roots if and only if $b^2 - 4c$ is a perfect square. Furthermore we need $a$, $b$ and $c$ to be in arithmetic progression, so we must have $b = 1 + k$ and $c = 1 + 2k$ for some nonzero integer $k$. Thus we need $(1 + k)^2 - 4(1 + 2k) = k^2 - 6k - 3$ to be a perfect square. The first one that works is $k = 7$, since $7^2 - 6 \times 7 - 3 = 4 = 2^2$. Therefore a solution is:
$$x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0$$
Which has integer roots $-5$ and $-3$, and $1$, $8$, $15$ are in arithmetic progression.

TODO: find a systematic way to choose $k$, and prove/disprove there are infinitely many solutions for any $a \ne 0$.​
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Bacterius said:
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Set $a = 1$ for convenience. Then the quadratic has integer roots if and only if $b^2 - 4c$ is a perfect square. Furthermore we need $a$, $b$ and $c$ to be in arithmetic progression, so we must have $b = 1 + k$ and $c = 1 + 2k$ for some nonzero integer $k$. Thus we need $(1 + k)^2 - 4(1 + 2k) = k^2 - 6k - 3$ to be a perfect square. The first one that works is $k = 7$, since $7^2 - 6 \times 7 - 3 = 4 = 2^2$. Therefore a solution is:
$$x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0$$
Which has integer roots $-5$ and $-3$, and $1$, $8$, $15$ are in arithmetic progression.

TODO: find a systematic way to choose $k$, and prove/disprove there are infinitely many solutions for any $a \ne 0$.​
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[sp]In fact, assuming that $a$, $b$ and $c$ are integers there is only one other solution apart from $x^2 + 8x + 15 = 0$ or multiples of it.

If $a$ and $k$ have a common factor $d$ then $d$ will divide $a$, $b$ and $c$, and we can divide the equation $ax^2 + bx + c = 0$ by $d$ to get an equivalent version of the same equation. So we may assume that $a$ and $k$ are coprime. But the sum of the roots (which has to be an integer) is $\frac{-(a+k)}{a} = -1 -\frac ka$. If $a$ and $k$ are coprime that can only be an integer when $a=1$. So the equation becomes $x^2 + (1+k)x + (1+2k)$, with roots $\frac12\bigl( -1-k \pm\sqrt{(k+1)^2 - 4(2k+1)}\bigr).$

The expression under the square root is $k^2 - 6k - 3 = (k-3)^2 - 12$. That has to be the square of some integer $n$. If we write $k-3=m$ then $m$ and $n$ have to satisfy the condition $m^2 - 12 = n^2$. Then $m^2 - n^2 = (m+n)(m-n) = 12.$ The only factorisations of $12$ making $m$ and $n$ both integers are are $12 = (\pm6)(\pm2)$, giving $m = \pm4$ and $n = \pm2.$ If $m=4$ then $k=7$, giving the solution ground by Bacterius. If $m=-4$ then $k=-1$, giving the equation $x^2 + 0x + (-1) = 0$, or $x^2-1=0$, with solutions $x = \pm1.$[/sp]
 
my solution is same as above except the starting point

because the roots are integer say m and n then
$f(x) =l(x+m)(x+n)$

so for the case when gcd( coefficients of $x^2$, coefficients of x, constant) = 1 then coefficient of $x^2 = 1$
 

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