How to have better discrete math insight

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The discussion centers on enhancing insight in discrete mathematics, specifically through a problem involving integers from 0-9 arranged in a circle. The problem asserts that at least one group of three consecutive integers must sum to at least 14, which is proven using contradiction. The key insight is recognizing that the total sum of all groups is three times the overall sum of the integers in the circle, leading to a contradiction if the initial statement is false. Participants seek strategies to develop creative problem-solving skills in discrete math, counting, and probability.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of discrete mathematics concepts
  • Familiarity with proof by contradiction
  • Knowledge of geometric series, specifically the sum of integers 1 to 9
  • Basic skills in combinatorial reasoning
NEXT STEPS
  • Study Polya's "How to Solve It" for problem-solving strategies
  • Explore advanced topics in discrete mathematics, such as graph theory
  • Practice problems involving proof techniques in discrete math
  • Investigate combinatorial optimization techniques for creative solutions
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This discussion is beneficial for students of discrete mathematics, educators seeking to enhance teaching methods, and anyone interested in improving their problem-solving skills in mathematics.

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How to have better discrete math "insight"

Greetings:


I came a cross a textbook example in a discrete math book that I have been reading on my own, and I thought this example in the book was a good example of what I want to be good at:


Given integers from 0-9 arranged in a circle, is it true that at least one group where a group is 3 consecutive integer around the circle has a sum that is at least 14?





the solution is that using proof by contradiction, if the statement is not true then we have a sum of the total groups equals 130 at most, but then we must regconize that the sum of all groups is 3 times the total sum of the entire circle. (geo sum of 1 to 9) which is 135, hence contradiction.




my question is, suppose one have not seen this problem, how would one go about this? how would one be able to "see" that total sum of groups is just 3 times the overall circle sum? I read the solution immediately after the question so I guess I ruin the chance for myself to figure out, but I'm asking generally, for discrete math, counting, probability, what are the "healthy" thought process or creativity that would enable one to be better at devising creative and elegant solutions to these types of problems?\


thanks
 
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hihiip201 said:
Greetings:


I came a cross a textbook example in a discrete math book that I have been reading on my own, and I thought this example in the book was a good example of what I want to be good at:


Given integers from 0-9 arranged in a circle, is it true that at least one group where a group is 3 consecutive integer around the circle has a sum that is at least 14?





the solution is that using proof by contradiction, if the statement is not true then we have a sum of the total groups equals 130 at most, but then we must regconize that the sum of all groups is 3 times the total sum of the entire circle. (geo sum of 1 to 9) which is 135, hence contradiction.




my question is, suppose one have not seen this problem, how would one go about this? how would one be able to "see" that total sum of groups is just 3 times the overall circle sum? I read the solution immediately after the question so I guess I ruin the chance for myself to figure out, but I'm asking generally, for discrete math, counting, probability, what are the "healthy" thought process or creativity that would enable one to be better at devising creative and elegant solutions to these types of problems?\


thanks

I'm not that good at math either. You might try Polya's book how "How to Solve it" or some title like that.
 
hihiip201 said:
Greetings:


I came a cross a textbook example in a discrete math book


What was the mathematical topic being treated in the chapter where you found this problem? Finding a problem in a textbook is different than finding a problem in a book of miscellaneous puzzles.
 

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