How To Plot A Curve With Given Three Points?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical methods for plotting a curve through a given set of points, specifically focusing on three points and extending to nine points. Participants explore the implications of different types of curves, such as parabolas and circles, and the uniqueness of these curves based on assumptions about their shapes.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that there are infinitely many curves that can pass through three points, with a common suggestion being the use of a 2nd order polynomial (parabola).
  • Others clarify that while parabolas can be uniquely defined under certain conditions, there are still infinitely many parabolas that can fit three points depending on the orientation of the axis.
  • One participant raises the question of extending the method to nine points and whether the same polynomial approach can be applied, suggesting that it could lead to a higher-order polynomial.
  • Another participant introduces the idea of using splines for fitting curves through an arbitrary number of points, indicating a piecewise approach might be more suitable.
  • Concerns are raised about the case where the three points are collinear, suggesting that in such a scenario, a straight line would be the best representation rather than a circle or parabola.
  • One participant mentions that fitting nine points would likely require a 9th order polynomial, hinting at the complexity involved and referencing the fundamental theorem of algebra.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are infinitely many curves that can pass through three points, but there is disagreement regarding the uniqueness of specific curves like parabolas and circles under different assumptions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for fitting curves through more than three points.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of collinearity on curve fitting and the complexity of higher-order polynomials. There are also unresolved questions about the smoothness and continuity of curves when extending the method to more points.

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Hi everyone,

Can someone please tell me is there any mathematical equation/formula on ploting a curve with given three coordinates/points such as below image?

Thank you very much for your help

Op
 

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There are infinitely many curves you can draw through three points. The simplest method it to use a 2nd order polynomial (i.e a parabola). Just write out 3 equations using the values of x & y:

y1 = a x21 + b x1+ c
y2 = a x22 + b x2+ c
y3 = a x23 + b x3+ c

This is 3 equations in 3 unknowns (a,b,c) that can be solved by substitution.
 
As hotvette has already said, there are infinitely many curves you can draw through three points.

Two common cases in which the curve is uniquely specified by three points are the parabola and the circle. That is, if you assume it's a circle then such a circle is unique, and if you assume it's a parabola then such a parabola is unique.
 
if you assume it's a parabola then such a parabola is unique
No, there are an infinity of parabolas that can be draw through three points, each one with a different axial direction. Of course, il you asume a given direction for the axis, the parabola is unique.
 
There are infinitely many curves you can draw through three points. The simplest method it to use a 2nd order polynomial (i.e a parabola). Just write out 3 equations using the values of x & y:

y1 = a x21 + b x1+ c
y2 = a x22 + b x2+ c
y3 = a x23 + b x3+ c

This is 3 equations in 3 unknowns (a,b,c) that can be solved by substitution.

What about if the amount of the points are nine pieces?

Will above equations can be continued from three to nine equations with similar pattern?

Does this curve is a kind of smooth and continue curve?
 
optics.tech said:
What about if the amount of the points are nine pieces?

Will above equations can be continued from three to nine equations with similar pattern?

Does this curve is a kind of smooth and continue curve?

If you want to extend this to an arbitrary number of points then you're probably looking for something more like a spline (piecewise fit). See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spline_(mathematics)
 
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If all 3 point's are colinear then it can't be a circle or a parabola, unless the radius of the circle goes to infinity or the coefficient of x^2 goes to infinity or zero for the parabola. It can be many other things but the best representation is probably a straight line, unless you have some kind of 'exotic' application such as temperature changes over time.:smile:
 
For nine points I think you'll need a 9th order polynomial, so you'd get nine equations (and a headache). Something tells me the reasoning stems from the fundamental theorem of algebra, but I couldn't give you more detail than that.
 

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