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How to Pursue your Interests Without Getting a Thread Closed

  1. Dec 25, 2016 #1

    BillTre

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    I have seen many posts complaining about threads being closed due to being too speculative or subjective in posts.
    When I first started using this forum, I also felt limited by this. Now I am used to this so it doesn't bother me so much.
    Now I am just more annoyed by people making posts that kill threads for which I was composing posts (sometimes it takes me awhile to get a decent post together).

    My primary approach for avoiding getting a thread closed is to
    • phrase your interesting idea as a question with a scientific angle to it rather than as a statement, or
    • link to link to some relevant references.

    Perhaps there are other useful approaches.
     
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  3. Dec 25, 2016 #2

    phinds

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    The most useful approach is to just stick with mainstream science.
     
  4. Dec 25, 2016 #3

    Evo

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    Those can both be useful approaches, of course Phinds is the safest. If you have written out a thoughtful, mainstream post that you didn't get to post, PM it to the mentor and ask if you may be allowed to add it to the thread. If it adds value, we may sometimes allow it to be added, we don't want good information to go to waste. We just have to be careful that it doesn't appear to "prod" the person that is the reason for the thread closing, as they will often want to respond to the added post, then you want to respond, then they want to respond...
     
  5. Dec 25, 2016 #4

    BillTre

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    "Safe" is NOT my middle name!
     
  6. Dec 31, 2016 #5
    This is what made me come to this sub-forum. I get why the main sub-forums have to keep to non-speculative stuff, but why not have an exta bit where people can discuss stuff that would get deleted elsewhere? Does this exist already and I've not looked hard enough for it?
     
  7. Dec 31, 2016 #6

    Nugatory

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    There are some older threads on this question... we have tried it, in several different ways over the years. It doesn't work in an open internet forum in which anyone is free to introduce noise.
     
  8. Dec 31, 2016 #7

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    We did have this sort of thing once upon a time. We couldn't get it to work to our satisfaction. You can read about the history at the end of this page:

    https://www.physicsforums.com/help/speculation/
     
  9. Dec 31, 2016 #8

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    Ah, well that's my question answered.
     
  11. Dec 31, 2016 #10

    BillTre

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    My intent for the original post was to explore the ways around this problem within the constraints on speculation.

    For example (example only not a speculation):
    Instead of writing:
    "I think that dark matter is due to entangled particles that arise in parallel universes when wave functions collapse and have trans-multiverse gravitational effects."

    The statement could be broken down into a series of separately posted questions that have a less speculative tone, such as:

    What are current thoughts on the relationship between wave function collapse and alternate multiverses?
    What are current thoughts on entanglement between alternate multiverses?
    What kind of (if any) gravitational effects might entangled particles have?

    Presenting the questions as separate posts would further reduce the overall speculative nature of the whole,
    but could possibly satisfy one's own interest in finding out what others might think of the overall idea.
    It might also help you better understand your own thoughts.
     
  12. Dec 31, 2016 #11

    berkeman

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    You forgot to post the links to the reading you've been doing... :biggrin:
     
  13. Dec 31, 2016 #12

    BillTre

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    Good point!
     
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