How to remember set theory properties?

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The discussion revolves around strategies for remembering and understanding basic identities in set theory and functions, particularly in the context of intermediate proof-writing courses. Participants share their experiences with specific set identities and properties, exploring both conceptual understanding and practical memorization techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • An undergraduate expresses confusion over set theory identities and properties, noting the need to reprove them frequently.
  • Some participants suggest using heuristics or assumptions about the rules rather than relying solely on proofs.
  • One participant explains the role of injective and surjective functions in terms of information preservation and collapse, providing examples to illustrate these concepts.
  • Another participant reiterates the initial query about proving a specific set identity using given sets, indicating a desire for practical application of the discussed concepts.
  • A later reply thanks a participant for their detailed response, indicating that the advice was helpful.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best methods for remembering set theory properties, with various strategies proposed and some disagreement on the effectiveness of proofs versus heuristics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the mechanical nature of proofs as a barrier to understanding, while others suggest that certain functions and identities can be assumed to hold true without repeated verification. There is also mention of specific examples that may not cover all cases or assumptions.

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Undergraduate students studying mathematics, particularly those taking courses focused on proof-writing and set theory, may find this discussion beneficial.

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I'm an undergraduate studying math taking intermediate proof-writing courses, and there are certain basic identities of set theory and functions that still confuse me - i.e., I have to reprove them or think about them carefully every time. Examples:

$$(A\times B)\cap (C\times D)=(A\cap C)\times (B\cap D)$$

If $$g\circ f$$ is injective, then $$f$$ is injective (but not necessarily $$g$$). If $$g\circ f$$ is surjective, then $$g$$ is surjective (but not necessarily $$f$$).

Given $$f:A\rightarrow B$$, $$A_0,A_1\subset A$$ and $$B_0,B_1\subset B$$:

$$f^{-1}(B_0\cap B_1)=f^{-1}(B_0)\cap f^{-1}(B_1)$$ and

$$f(A_0\cap A_1)\subset f(A_0)\cap f(A_1)$$ - equality holds if $$f$$ is injective.

The thing is, proving such things doesn't seem to help me remember them since the proof is rather mechanical and symbolic. Does anyone have any tips for learning them better, or any book suggestions that might give me some intuition for it? Thanks!
 
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I do not remember any of those rules. I just assume the appropriate rules are true anytime I have to prove something and then do a quick check for the ones I assumed.
 
These are not "proofs" (for which there are, truly, "no substitutes") but "heuristics" which may, or may not help you.

For your first example, think of the two projection functions:

$p_1:X \times Y \to X$
$p_2: X \times Y \to Y$

defined in the obvious way.

For your second example: we have two "cases" with functions:

1. A function "preseves" set information (this is what injective functions do)
2. A function "collapes" set information

If the first function is a composition "collapses information" there is no way for the second function to "blow it back up". So if $g\circ f$ is injective, we cannot have $f$ NOT injective. We can actually say a "little bit" about $g$ in this situation: it is injective on the image of $f$ which lies in its domain. We can't tell what $g$ does to points of its domain NOT in the image of $f$, because $g \circ f$ never sees them.

On the other hand, if $g \circ f$ is surjective, then every element of the co-domain of $g \circ f$ was once an element in the domain of $f$. To get there it had to "pass through $g$", so there must have been some element in the domain of $g$ (which is also in the image of $f$) that $g$ maps to our original co-domain element.

When thinking about injective functions $f:X \to Y$, it is often helpful to use the "typical" injective function $1_X: X \to X$ as a quick "reality check". Similarly, it is often helpful to think of a CONSTANT function $g:X \to \{x\}$ as a "typical" surjective function.

With the "inverse map" $f^{-1}$ you can safely assume it preserves ALL set operations. Verify this ONE TIME, and then just use this fact forever more.

Similarly, if $f$ is injective, it preserves ALL set operations. If it is NOT injective, we have a function of the "collapsing" type. One simple way to keep straight "which way" the containment goes is to use a simple function like this:

$A = \{a,b,c\}, B = \{x,y\}$

$f: A \to B$ defined as: $f(a) = x, f(b) = y, f(c) = x$.

Let $A_0 = \{a,b\}$ and $A_1 = \{b,c\}$

Then $f(A_0 \cap A_1) = f(\{b\}) = \{y\}$

whereas $f(A_0) \cap f(A_1) = B \cap B = B$.
 
Ragnarok said:
I'm an undergraduate studying math taking intermediate proof-writing courses, and there are certain basic identities of set theory and functions that still confuse me - i.e., I have to reprove them or think about them carefully every time. Examples:

$$(A\times B)\cap (C\times D)=(A\cap C)\times (B\cap D)$$

If $$g\circ f$$ is injective, then $$f$$ is injective (but not necessarily $$g$$). If $$g\circ f$$ is surjective, then $$g$$ is surjective (but not necessarily $$f$$).

Given $$f:A\rightarrow B$$, $$A_0,A_1\subset A$$ and $$B_0,B_1\subset B$$:

$$f^{-1}(B_0\cap B_1)=f^{-1}(B_0)\cap f^{-1}(B_1)$$ and

$$f(A_0\cap A_1)\subset f(A_0)\cap f(A_1)$$ - equality holds if $$f$$ is injective.

The thing is, proving such things doesn't seem to help me remember them since the proof is rather mechanical and symbolic. Does anyone have any tips for learning them better, or any book suggestions that might give me some intuition for it? Thanks!

If WE PUT :

A={a,b}

B={c,d}

C={e,f}

D={k,l}

Can you then prove the set identity you mentioned??
 
Thank you so much for the detailed response, Deveno, and I'm sorry it took me so long to respond to it. Your advice is exactly what I was looking for!
 

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