How to Solve for Velocity with Quadratic and Linear Drag Forces?

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The discussion centers on solving for velocity in the presence of linear and quadratic drag forces, represented by the equation f = -bv - cv². Participants utilized Newton's 2nd Law, F = m(dv/dt) = -bv - cv², and applied separation of variables to derive the integral dt = dv/(-bv - cv²). The correct solution for time t was established as t = (-m/b) * (1/(b + cv)) * ln(v/(1 + (c/b)v)). The conversation highlighted the importance of using partial fractions for integral solutions and correctly rearranging the equation to isolate v in terms of t.

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An object is coasting on the horizontal axis, in the positive direction and is subject to a drag force f = -bv - cv^{2}.
Write down Newton's 2nd Law and solve for v using separation of variables.

So first I wrote out Newton's law as:
F= m(dv/dt) = -bv - cv^{2}

Solving the integral: dt = \frac{dv}{-bv-cv^{2}}, with boundaries from 0 to t and v(0) to v

I got: t = \frac{-m}{b} ln\frac{v}{1+\frac{c}{b}v^{2}}

Note: I haven't put in my boundaries on v yet. However, Once I put in my boundaries on v and try to rearrange to solve for v, I can't get anywhere. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.

Thx, CB
 
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Are you sure about the ln? If I differentiate it, I first get
\frac{ 1 + (c/b) v^2 }{ v }
times the derivative of that (chain rule!) which will be something like (... - ...) / v^2
in total giving me something containing 1/v^3.

If you want to do it analytically, you could try writing
\frac{-dv}{v} \frac{1}{b + c v}
as
\left( \frac{A}{v} + \frac{B}{b + c v}\right) dv
with A and B constants (which, in this case, works). Then split the integral and solve both parts separately.
 
Well looks like I made an error in my calculations: the integral turns out to be :
t =\frac{-m}{b} \frac{1}{b + c v} ln\frac{v}{1+\frac{c}{b}v}

And yes, using partial fractions will also solve this integral, and yes a ln function will turn out to be there.

Anyway, then the solution is solved for just rearranging for v in terms of t.
 

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