How to Solve for x in ln(x) + x = 10: Quick and Easy Method

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation ln(x) + x = 10, which involves concepts from calculus and logarithmic functions. Participants explore various methods and approaches to find the value of x.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants suggest using inequalities to establish bounds for x, while others propose graphical methods to find intersections. There is mention of Newton's method as a numerical approach, and one participant introduces the Lambert W function as a potential solution method.

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The discussion is active, with multiple approaches being explored, including numerical methods and theoretical functions. Participants are questioning the feasibility of exact solutions versus approximations, and there is no explicit consensus on a single method.

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Participants note the need for numerical approximations and the limitations of solving the equation analytically. There is also a reference to the Lambert W function, which may not be familiar to all participants.

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hello,
i heard there is some way of solving for x, but i can't for the life of me remember how. please help!

ln(x) + x = 10

thanks!
 
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Yeah, I think it should be something like this:
lnx>=1
x>=e...(1)
lnx>=1
lnx+x>=1+x
1+x<=10
x<=9
solution set for x: [e,9]
 
Graph intersection: y=ln x and y=10-x.
 
>.< I don't think that's it mate.

there's no way to solve for x, you can only approximate it.
 
Newton's method works quite nicely here

we will need, the function:

f (x) = ln(x) + x -10 = 0

and its first derivative:

f'(x) = 1/x + 1

an initial guess:

x0 = 1

and we can begin:

x1 = x0 - f(x0)/f'(x0) = 5.5

x2 = x1 - f(x1)/f'(x1) = 7.865213153

x3 = 7.929390693

x4 = 7.929420095

x5 = x4 as far as my calculator is concerned

try it out
 
Just curious how you would use Newton's Method, Gib Z, since you do not use a calculator.
Cheers,
 
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j3n said:
hello,
i heard there is some way of solving for x, but i can't for the life of me remember how. please help!

ln(x) + x = 10

thanks!

I wonder if you are not thinking of the "Lambert W function". W(x) is defined as the inverse of the function f(x)= xex.

If ln(x)+ x= 10, then, taking the exponential of each side, eln(x)+ x= xex= e10.

x= W(e10).

Of course, the only way to evaluate that is to do some kind of numerical approximation as others have said,
 

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