How to Solve Logarithmic Equation log4x-log4(x+3)=-1?

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The discussion revolves around solving the logarithmic equation log4(x) - log4(x + 3) = -1. Participants explore various methods to manipulate the equation and express uncertainty about the steps involved in arriving at a solution.

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  • One participant rewrites the equation as log4(x)(x - 3) = -1 and attempts to derive a quadratic equation.
  • Another participant suggests applying the logarithmic property to combine the logs into log4(x/(x + 3)) = -1.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the next steps after forming the quadratic equation x^2 + 3x - 1/4 = 0.
  • There is a suggestion to use the quadratic formula to solve the equation, leading to a complex expression involving square roots.
  • Another participant confirms the simplification to 1/4 = x/(x + 3) and discusses methods for solving this equation, including cross-multiplication.
  • One participant proposes that the solution may be x = 1, while another confirms this answer.

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There is some agreement on the steps to simplify the logarithmic equation, but uncertainty remains regarding the application of the quadratic formula and the correctness of the derived solutions. Multiple viewpoints on the solution process are present.

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Participants have not fully resolved the implications of the quadratic equation or the conditions under which the logarithmic properties apply. Some steps in the solution process are left ambiguous.

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log4x-log4(x+3)=-1

This is what I have so far:

=log4(x)(x-3)=-1
=(x)(x-3)= 4-1
=(x)(x-3)= 1/4
= x2+3x-1/4=0

Now do I use the quadratic equation to solve? Thanks.
 
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We are given to solve:

$\displaystyle \log_4(x)-\log_4(x+3)=-1$

We want to first apply the logarithmic property:

$\displaystyle \log_a(b)-\log_a(c)=\log_a\left(\frac{b}{c} \right)$

What does this give us?
 
I already solved part of the equation, I'm just not sure what to do once I get to

= x2+3x-1/4=0

When I solve using the quadratic equation after this I end up with:

-3 +/- 2squareroot2/2
 
arl2267 said:
I already solved part of the equation, I'm just not sure what to do once I get to

= x2+3x-1/4=0

When I solve using the quadratic equation after this I end up with:

-3 +/- 2squareroot2/2

That's not the equation you should solve.

$\displaystyle \log_4(x)-\log_4(x+3)=-1$. Using MarkFL's suggestion we simplify this to [math]\log_{4}\left( \frac{x}{x+3} \right)=-1[/math]. Using the definition of a logarithm this becomes [math]4^{-1}=\frac{x}{x+3}[/math].

Can you finish from here?
 
Do I multiply each side by 1/4?
 
[math]\frac{1}{4}=\frac{x}{x+3}[/math]

Here you can simplify a few ways. Maybe you're familiar with the idea of cross-multiplication of fractions.

[math]1(x+3)=4x[/math] or simply [math]x+3=4x[/math]
 
So the answer is x=1?
 

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