How to visualise bilinear form and inner products?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the visualization of bilinear forms and inner products within the context of abstract linear algebra. Participants seek to understand these concepts in a more intuitive, visual manner, particularly in relation to vector spaces and geometric interpretations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in visualizing bilinear forms and inner products, emphasizing the importance of visual representation in understanding mathematical concepts.
  • Another participant explains that inner products can be viewed as abstract versions of the dot product, which measures angles and projections between vectors. They note that for unit vectors, the inner product corresponds to the cosine of the angle between them.
  • A similar explanation is reiterated, highlighting that if vectors are not unit vectors, scaling is necessary to interpret the inner product correctly.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the norm associated with vectors, stating that the norm can be derived from the inner product.
  • Another participant summarizes that an inner product provides a notion of length for vectors and describes how the size of the inner product relates to the angles between vectors, indicating conditions for parallelism and perpendicularity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present overlapping explanations regarding inner products and their geometric interpretations, but there is no explicit consensus on a singular visual representation or method for understanding bilinear forms.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the specific visual representation of bilinear forms, and assumptions regarding the understanding of vector norms and angles are not fully explored.

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Hi I'm taking abstract linear algebra course and having trouble visualising bilinear form and inner products. I can visualise vector spaces, span, dimensions etc but haven't managed to figure out how to visualise this yet. Could someone please explain it to me in a visual way?
I can't understand mathematics when I can't visualise it.
 
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Inner products are just abstracted versions of the dot product,which is really a way of measuring angles and projections. If u and v are unit vectors, then [itex]\left< u, v \right> = \cos(\theta)[/itex] where theta is the angle between u and v. It also equals the length of the projection of u onto v. If they are not unit vectors then you need to scale appropriately.
 
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Inner products are just abstracted versions of the dot product,which is really a way of measuring angles and projections. If u and v are unit vectors, then [itex]\left< u, v \right> = \cos(\theta)[/itex] where theta is the angle between u and v. It also equals the length of the projection of u onto v. If they are not unit vectors then you need to scale appropriately.

For completeness, the norm with respect to which [itex]u[/itex] and [itex]v[/itex] are unit vectors is
[tex]\|u\| = (\langle u, u \rangle)^{1/2}[/tex]
 
The less detailed version of the correct explanations above:

An inner product yields a notion of length for vectors (where [itex]||x||[/itex] denotes the length of [itex]x[/itex]), which agrees quite well with our intuitions about length. For any pair of vectors [itex]x,y[/itex], the number [itex]\langle x,y\rangle[/itex] has size between zero and [itex]||x||\cdot||y||[/itex]. If it has size [itex]\approx||x||\cdot||y||[/itex], then [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex] are approximately parallel. If it's [itex]\approx 0[/itex], then [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex] are approximately perpendicular. If it's a positive number, then [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex] make an acute angle (from the origin). If it's a negative number, then [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex] make an obtuse angle (from the origin).
 

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