How ugly is your physics department?

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In summary, the conversation revolved around the aesthetics of physics department buildings and if it is a common theme for them to be in neglected or unattractive areas of campus. Participants also discussed some personal experiences with their own university's physics department buildings, with some noting that they were not as impressive compared to other buildings on campus. It was also mentioned that funding for new buildings often goes to other departments, as physics may not bring in as much money as others. One participant also shared the sad history of a physics building at their alma mater.

Which describes your physics department?

  • My Physics department is markedly nicer compared to the average buildings/departments on campus.

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • My Physics department is about average compared to the other buildings/departments on campus.

    Votes: 14 53.8%
  • My Physics department is markedly uglier compared to the average buildings/departments on campus.

    Votes: 11 42.3%

  • Total voters
    26
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I've noticed that most Physics departments I've been to are often quite shabby and/or in very ugly or neglected parts of campus. The buildings tend to be old, plain, and just unsightly. I'm wondering if this is common or not, and if it is why so, so I want to gather some data. When you vote, please consider the building which houses the majority of the tenured, teaching faculty. That is, the full Professors, and not random building which may house adjunct or research-only professors. The building that constitutes the "core" of the department should be what you base your vote on (just think where they hold their weekly/monthly faculty meetings, or where the physics office is located).

I'm guessing that if it's a common theme, it's probably related to how much money physics brings into the school/university compared to other departments, but we'll see!
 
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The beauty is in the equation!
 
  • #3
It's all the fault of them thermodynamics people...
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  • #4
My physics department is small, with only like 10 actual physics professors, so it's combined in the engineering building. It's not amazing, but it's a nice building. Only thing I've noticed is the bathrooms always stink in that building. I hate going in there.
 
  • #5
At the University of Toronto (my alma mater), the physics department is located in the McLennan Physical Lab, which in my opinion is a decent looking building. Some of you might recognize the interior of the building if you have seen the film Good Will Hunting, specifically the classroom scenes. Interestingly, I recall the lecture halls to be noticeably darker than how it appears in the film.
 
  • #6
The physics department at my alma matter is housed in Rockefeller Hall, built in 1903. A good chunk of the funding for that building came from John Rockefeller, hence the name. Rumor has it that the university diverted a good chunk of the money given to the school by Rockefeller to other projects and skimped on the building of Rockefeller Hall. The building is so ugly, inside and out, that Rockefeller vowed to never give another dime to my alma matter. He founded the University of Chicago instead.
 
  • #7
D H said:
The physics department at my alma matter is housed in Rockefeller Hall, built in 1903.

They have a new building for the physics department now. They just call it the physical sciences building (PSB) and it's right next to Rockefeller. Rockefeller is now used for physics classes and some other random classes and it's definitely ugly but PSB is pretty sweet.
 
  • #8
At my university both the engineering and physics buildings are, in my opinion, two of the ugliest of the whole campus. The exterior of the engineering building features blue tiles that look like they belong either in a public swimming pool or perhaps the bathroom of a hospital, and the physics building looks like it's about to collapse (and also features the same, or at least similar, exterior decor as the engineering department). The arts department, on the other hand, is quite attractive on the outside, so much so that a bunch of peacocks even live right outside (the sound they make is akin to a screaming child, though).
 
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Relative to the rest of the campus, the science building is nice but nothing special. All the buildings look new and relatively modern, though the humanities building is very Spartan. I am attending a community college, so the buildings looks anemic compared to what most people have at universities.
 
  • #10
Well I'm in an astronomy department not physics, but we share the same building.
We always complain how we want a new building. It's quite old and boring and chopped up into many small floors. All the new and shiny buildings around campus are for computer sciences or bio/chemistry. The university keeps building new ones but never anything related to physics or astronomy. It's not that surprising, we don't bring in as much money as the other guys.

And most of our funding for buildings go to the observatory. So I'm not really complaining that much :)
 
  • #11
This topic is extremely offensive; the college I attend doesn't have a physics department.
 
  • #12
leroyjenkens said:
My physics department is small, with only like 10 actual physics professors, so it's combined in the engineering building. It's not amazing, but it's a nice building. Only thing I've noticed is the bathrooms always stink in that building. I hate going in there.

That's like every educational institution that I attended until college.
 
  • #13
D H said:
The physics department at my alma matter is housed in Rockefeller Hall, built in 1903. A good chunk of the funding for that building came from John Rockefeller, hence the name. Rumor has it that the university diverted a good chunk of the money given to the school by Rockefeller to other projects and skimped on the building of Rockefeller Hall. The building is so ugly, inside and out, that Rockefeller vowed to never give another dime to my alma matter. He founded the University of Chicago instead.
I think that's where Richard Feynman recorded his lectures on Physics, and Hans Bethe taught.
 
  • #14
Where I went to school (UW-Madison), I don't think the Physics buildings (there were two) were ugly at all. They are not the most beautiful buildings on campus, but they were stately.

Sterling Hall is where I spent most of my time.
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This building also houses the Astronomy people, and it has an observatory on the roof.

The other building that housed the physics people was Chamberlain Hall, right next to, and connected to, Sterling Hall.
http://photos.uc.wisc.edu/photos/987/original/Chamberlin_Hall00.jpg?1286778855

I remember seeing, almost every day, this huge detector for Fermilab being assembled in one of the high-bay area in Chamberlain Hall.

Sterling Hall, if you look it up, has a sad history. During the height of protests against the Vietnam war, the building was bombed, resulting in the death of a researcher.

Zz.
 
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I found this pic of my alma matter's physical science building. Brings back a lot of good memories.

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  • #16
The physics building on my campus is old, with the shape and size of its windows making it look like a prison. There are many old buildings (some as old as 1885) on campus so it's aesthetically average, in my opinion.
 
  • #17
Those buildings are both very nice in my opinion.

This is my undegraduate physics building:

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and the inside is even worse.
 
  • #18
Dear DIPOLE

I recognize your physics bldg. well. I used to have an office in the weather station (your fifth floor). I even been to the roof above the weather station. Those were good years

In every physics dept I have attended our bldgs. and surroundings were excellent or above average relative to the rest of the campus.
 
  • #19
Dear DIPOLE

The construction crane does nothing to increase the aesthetic value. The last time I was at your school, the construction in erecting your new bldgs. detracted from the beauty. I do admit when I had an office in the weather station, looking out in all directions, I realized I would probably never have as scenic an office, and I never have. I was lucky I even got a window. Most offices are now cubicles.

The real tipoff as to where you might be is the snow on the ground. At your site snow on the ground is omnipresent between November and April. Also most of my pictures have gray skies. Your hill location still beats the city below.
 
  • #20
Here we don't have a physics building, the institute is spread in a place called Central Institute of Sciences, so it's pretty ugly and messy.
 

Related to How ugly is your physics department?

1. How does the appearance of your physics department affect its functionality?

The appearance of a physics department does not necessarily affect its functionality. The equipment, resources, and expertise of the faculty are what truly determine the quality of education and research in a physics department.

2. How important is it for a physics department to have aesthetically pleasing facilities?

While having aesthetically pleasing facilities can contribute to a positive learning and working environment, it is not a crucial factor in the success of a physics department. The focus should be on providing the necessary resources and support for students and faculty to excel in their studies and research.

3. What impact does the appearance of a physics department have on student enrollment?

The appearance of a physics department may have some influence on student enrollment, as a well-maintained and modern facility can attract potential students. However, the reputation and academic offerings of the department are more significant factors in student enrollment.

4. Are there any benefits to having an "ugly" physics department?

While an aesthetically unpleasing physics department may not be ideal, there are no significant benefits to having one. It is more important for a department to have well-functioning equipment and resources to support the education and research of its students and faculty.

5. Can an "ugly" physics department still produce quality research?

Yes, an "ugly" physics department can still produce quality research. The appearance of a department does not determine the intelligence or capabilities of its faculty and students. As long as the necessary resources and support are provided, quality research can be conducted in any environment.

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