Hydrated calcium sulfate - problem determining mass of H2O

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The discussion revolves around the calculations related to the mass of water in hydrated calcium sulfate (CaSO4·xH2O) based on experimental lab results. Participants are analyzing their findings and calculations regarding the percentage of water, moles of water, and the formula of the unknown hydrate. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanation of the hydration process.

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  • One participant calculates the percentage of water in the hydrate as 7.332% based on their measurements, while another participant suggests it is 7.511% using a different method.
  • There is a disagreement on the calculation of moles of water, with one participant calculating 0.6806 mol of water based on their percentage, while another participant arrives at approximately 0.418 mol of water.
  • Participants discuss the implications of their calculations on the formula of the hydrate, with one proposing it to be 5CaSO4·3H2O and another suggesting it approximates to CaSO4·(0.5)H2O, indicating differing interpretations of the data.
  • A later post shifts focus to the chemistry process for producing gypsum hemihydrate, asking about the parameters that should be controlled during production.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the calculations of the percentage of water and the resulting moles. Multiple competing views remain regarding the correct interpretation of the experimental data and the formula of the hydrate.

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There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions in the calculations presented, particularly regarding the mass of the hydrate and the derived moles of water and anhydrate. The discussion reflects varying methodologies and interpretations of the experimental results.

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I just finished a lab and I was wondering if anyone could point out where I'm going wrong.

Here are my findings for CaSO4:

After First Heating After Second heating

Wt. of crucible, lid, and hydrate 35.0537g 34.9779g
Wt. of dry crucible and lid 34.0226g 34.0226g
Wt. of hydrate 1.0331g 0.9553g

Wt. of crucible, lid, and anhydrate 34.9779g 34.9781g
Wt. of crucible and lid 34.0226g 34.0226g
Wt. of anhydrate 0.9553g 0.9555g


Questions:

1. Calculate the % by weight of water in your unknown hydrate. Report the % to four digits.

1.0331g CaSO4*H2O - 0.9555g CaSO4 = 0.0756 g H2O
0.0756g/1.0311g x 100% = 7.332%

2. Using the % water from Part 1 above, calculate the moles of water. (Hint: Assume a 100g sample of hydrate.) Report to four digits.

7.332g H2O x 1mol. H20/18.02 g H2O = 0.6806 mol H2O

3. Using the & anhydrate, calculate the moles of anhydrate. Report four digits.

100% - 7.332% = 92.668%
92.668g CaSO4 x 1 mol CaSO4/136.15g CaSO4 = 0.6806 mol CaSO4

4. Using the anhydrate formula (CaSO4) given to you in lab, and the values from Parts 2 and 3 above, give the formula of your unknown hydrate. Show your calculation. Round the water to the nearest 1/2 or whole number of moles.

H2O = 0.4069 mol/0.4609 mol =1
CaSO4 = 0.6806 mol/0.4609 mol = 1.673
x 3 = 5CaSO4*3H2O

These calculations don't seem to be right, can anybody please help me understand?
 
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first, 1.0331 - 0.9555 = 0.0776g of water in 1.0331g of the hydrated salt. The % by weight of H2O is 7.511%

i find this method weird. this is what i;d have done:

weigh crucible + lid = 34.0226 g
weigh crucible + lid + hydrated salt = 35.0537 g
mass of hydrated salt = 1.0311 g

heat first time:

weigh crucible + lid + salt = 34.9779 g

heat second time:

weigh crucible + lid + salt = 34.9781 g

therefore, mass of water of crystallisation evaporated = 35.0537 - 34.9781 = 0.0756 g
and mass of anhydrous salt = 34.9781 - 34.0226 = 0.9555 g

this is all i will be needing.

i then calculate the number of moles of water of crystallisation = 0.0756/18 = 4.2*10^-3 mol

this amount is present in 1.0311 g of the hydrated salt.

i know the formula of the salt is CaSO4.xH2O

1 mol CaSO4.xH2O contains 1 mol CaSO4

i know the mass of CaSO4 which is 0.9555 g, and the molecular mass is 136
the number of moles of CaSO4 thus present is 7.026*10^-3.

this implies that 7.026*10^-3 mol CaSO4.xH20 is present.

now coming back to the water,

7.026*10^-3 mol CaSO4.xH20 contains 4.2*10^-3 mol water of crystallisation
1 mol CaSO4.xH2O contains 0.59778 mol water

you can approximate this value to 0.5 and you will get bassanite, CaSO4.(0.5)H2O
 
i think i found the error, in part 2.

(1) first the % water is wrong, it is 0.0776/1.0311 x 100% = 7.526 %

(2) you are saying 100g of hydrate contains 7.526 g water, which is 0.418 mol
(3) then 100g hydrate contains 92.474 g anhydrate, which is 0.680 mol

(4) but then, CaSO4.xH2O contains 1 mol CaSO4.
this implies that 100g of hydrate contains 0.680 mol of hydrate.

you know that 0.680 mol hydrate contains 0.418 mol water
therefore, 1 mol hydrate contains approximately 0.5 mol water (it is not the exact value obtained)

same as above ;)
 
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I want to know about chemistry process to produce gypsum hemihydrate ( CaSO4. 1/2 H2O )
and what should be controlled in the process to get stable CaSO4.1/2H2O:
a. Temperature
b. Moisture
c. Pressure
d. Air/powder ratio
e. Any others parameter that needed
 


Please do not hijack the threads.

Do you know how the hemihydrate is made?
 

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