I Deciding Cosmology or Astrophysics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between cosmology and astrophysics, with participants exploring their interests in space, the universe's origins, and potential career paths in these fields. The conversation includes inquiries about foundational knowledge, recommended reading materials, and suitable universities for pursuing studies in these areas.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to understand the differences between cosmology and astrophysics, focusing on topics like the creation of space and what lies beyond it.
  • Some participants suggest that cosmology deals with large-scale phenomena, such as galaxy interactions, while astrophysics is more concerned with local phenomena like stellar fusion.
  • Another viewpoint indicates that both fields require a solid foundation in physics, typically obtained through an undergraduate degree, before making a career choice.
  • Several participants recommend various books for learning about physics and cosmology, including "The Fabric of the Cosmos" and "Big Bang," while also emphasizing the importance of foundational math skills.
  • One participant mentions the Florida Institute of Technology as a potential university, highlighting its location and internship opportunities with NASA.
  • Concerns about the cost of attending the Florida Institute of Technology are raised, with specific tuition figures provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of a strong physics foundation for both fields and the importance of reading relevant literature. However, there are differing opinions on the specific distinctions between cosmology and astrophysics, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for foundational knowledge in mathematics, including algebra, trigonometry, and calculus, before advancing in physics. The discussion also reflects varying levels of interest and understanding among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a career in cosmology or astrophysics, students seeking guidance on foundational studies in physics, and those looking for book recommendations in these fields may find this discussion beneficial.

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First i need someone to help break it down what's the difference. Instead of just saying the origins of space is cosmos. Ima tell you what I am interested in and let me know which one i will do better in. I am interested in learning about space and how it was created, not only I am interested in the dementions and the sun the universe and all of everything in space and how it was created. And more to it. Whats beyond the boundries of space? Is that all cosmology? And what would be great books to start off with, I am already going to buy the physics for dummies book. Just to see what its about. Then if i understand it ill move up more. I am doing this decision because before i go to college i will be prepared, I am thinking about making it a career. Any help please?
 
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The difference is a matter of scale. Cosmology deals with large scale stuff like interactions between galaxies whereas astrophysics focuses more on local phenomena, like stellar fusion processes.
 
There is no difference in the path to either of those fields until you have completed a undergrad degree in Physics. At that point you will have the knowledge needed to make your choice. So at this time the only decision you have to make is what university to go to.
 
So you want to know which field to go into, but you want someone to define them for you?

As Integral said, the path to either field is to first develop a solid foundation in physics, which would come from an undergraduate degree. This should give you the appropriate background to decide on a career path.
 
Meanwhile, while ploughing through the boring bread & butter physics, read Brian Greene's "The Fabric of the Cosmos" to keep motivated...
 
mal4mac said:
Meanwhile, while ploughing through the boring bread & butter physics, read Brian Greene's "The Fabric of the Cosmos" to keep motivated...

No, don't. If you want to read a popular cosmology book, read "Big Bang" by Simon Singh.
 
Thanks a lot guys i really appreciate your replys. And thanks for not being rude about the question i asked. The thing is, if anything books on cosmology or astrophysics that can not only say this is how you do it. But in a way i can write it down and learn myself. Sounds hard. But practice does make perfection...
 
Choppy said:
So you want to know which field to go into, but you want someone to define them for you?

As Integral said, the path to either field is to first develop a solid foundation in physics, which would come from an undergraduate degree. This should give you the appropriate background to decide on a career path.


I understand what your saying, thanks a lot and yes a great book in physics that i can do pencil to paper would help, do you know any books on physics to get started? I know "physics for dummies" is one. Also would "The universe in a nutshell" by Stephen Hawkins, be a good book? Or is that just a book to read?
 
Chronos said:
The difference is a matter of scale. Cosmology deals with large scale stuff like interactions between galaxies whereas astrophysics focuses more on local phenomena, like stellar fusion processes.


Thanks cronos, that's really the best way i understood it. I think cosmology is what's for me. I am mostly interested not only knowing about the universe, but MORE to it. Like more deeper into the universe, instead of just knowing why its here. Like black holes and what's beyond the boundries of space. Any great colleges you know of? Or anyone know of? For Cosmology, and physics? I live in Florida and it would be nice just to know what's OUT THERE.
 
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If you want to read about Physics read the coffee table physics books like A Brief History of Time, and Elegant Universe anything by John Gribbin.

This, however, is MUCH different from actually learning Physics. If you are really interested in pursuing either of these fields you MUST learn Physics. To learn Physics start with math, Algebra, Trigonometry and Calculus are essential, they must be learned before you get to any real Physics. If it were easy everyone would do it.
 
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Integral said:
If you want to read about Physics read the coffee table physics books like A Brief History of Time, and Elegant Universe anything by John Gribbin.

This, however, is MUCH different from actually learning Physics. If you are really interested in pursuing either of these fields you MUST learn Physics. To learn Physics start with math, Algebra, Trigonometry and Calculus are essential, they must be learned before you get to any real Physics. If it were easy everyone would do it.

Very true and that's why i want to know the best way. Its just TIME and patience. And when your interested in something time= nothing... I am going to buy books on algrebra and trigonometry and calculus. Work my way up until college. Thanks
 
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If you're looking for a good school, and seeing as how you live in Florida, you should really check out Florida Institute of Technology. It's the school I'm looking into, although I'm only a junior in high school. They're located right on the space coast and have internships with NASA aswell. They've got a great general sciences program of which would help you decide further as to what field you'd like to go into.
Astrophysics and Cosmology are both fields that would interest me as well and this is the school that I'm most interested in going to.

Good Luck with your future endevours!
-pirtle
 
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pirtle said:
If you're looking for a good school, and seeing as how you live in Florida, you should really check out Florida Institute of Technology. It's the school I'm looking into, although I'm only a junior in high school. They're located right on the space coast and have internships with NASA aswell. They've got a great general sciences program of which would help you decide further as to what field you'd like to go into.
Astrophysics and Cosmology are both fields that would interest me as well and this is the school that I'm most interested in going to.

Good Luck with your future endevours!
-pirtle

YO I WAS GONNA GO THERE HAHAH THANKS a lot MAN. Is it a lot of money though? Just a random question.
 
  • #14
It's pretty expensive.. looks like just under 40 grand a year.

Undergraduate Student Cost Per Year (As of Fall 2007)

* Tuition
o Science and Engineering: $29,940
o Other Disciplies: $27,280
* Room and Board: $8,790
* Books (estimate): $1,200
 
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pirtle said:
It's pretty expensive.. looks like just under 40 grand a year.

Undergraduate Student Cost Per Year (As of Fall 2007)

* Tuition
o Science and Engineering: $29,940
o Other Disciplies: $27,280
* Room and Board: $8,790
* Books (estimate): $1,200

HOLY, WOW, that's expensive lol...
 

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