Identification Space: Is A Cone?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the identification space defined by the quotient A = (I × I)/J, where J is a specific subset of I × I. Participants are exploring whether this space can be classified as a cone, particularly in the context of topology and homeomorphisms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the identification space A is a closed disk, while also proposing that it could be considered a cone if interpreted as a baseless cone, noting a homeomorphic relationship.
  • Another participant requests clarification on how to construct the homeomorphism between the cone and the disk.
  • A participant describes a specific cone C with a unit circle base and a vertex, proposing a projection to establish a homeomorphism with the unit disk D.
  • One participant inquires about using circles defined by a parameter t to construct a homeomorphism from A to D².
  • Another participant seeks clarification on a previous message regarding the notation used for "x squared."
  • A participant presents a mapping from I × I to D², suggesting it as a potential homeomorphism.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the goal of creating a homeomorphism between the cone and the disk, indicating a lack of clarity in the discussion.
  • Another participant clarifies their intention to create a homeomorphism between the identified space I × I and D² while ensuring that a specific condition involving Ct is satisfied.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have differing views on whether the identification space A can be classified as a cone or a closed disk, and there is no consensus on the construction of the homeomorphism. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of the homeomorphism constructions and the specific definitions of the terms used, which may affect the understanding of the relationships between the spaces involved.

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Is this a cone after Identifaction?

Let A = (I × I)/J
where J = (I × {1}) ∪ ({0; 1} × I) ⊂ I × I
 
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It's a closed disk. But if by "cone" you mean baseless cone (i.e. a child's birthday party hat : http://www.utterwonder.com/archives/images/happy_birthday_party_hat-thumb.jpg ), then one can also say that A is a cone, since the two are homeomorphic.
 
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how would you construct that homeomorphism
 
Take C the cone with base a unit circle in the xy plane and vertex at say (0,0,1). Let also D be the unit disk centered at (0,0,0). Then the projection down on the xy-plane C-->D²:(x,y,z)-->(x,y,0) is the desired homeomorphism.
 
Could I do it using the circles
Ct = {(x; y) ∈ D2 | (x − t)2 + y2 = (1 − t)2} (t ∈ I)
to construct a homeomorphism f : A → D2
 
What do you mean?

Also, for "x quared", put x^2 instead of x2 please.
 
Sorry about that I constructed it as follows is this ok?

A -> D^2

(s,t) in I x I -> (cos(2pi(1-t)s),sin(2pi(1-t)s)) in D^2
 
This is a map from I x I to D^2. I thought you were trying to construct a homeomorphism between C and D^2. I don't see the link.
 
I was trying to create a homeomorphism between the identified I x I and D^2 such that Ct is satisfied.
 

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