If Logb(x) = 0.8, solve for Logb(x)(x^1/3)

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The discussion centers on solving the logarithmic expression \(\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})\) given that \(\log_b x = 0.8\). Participants clarify that the expression can be simplified using logarithmic properties, specifically the power and product rules. The correct evaluation leads to the conclusion that \(\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x}) = 0.8 + \frac{1}{3} \cdot 0.8 = 1.07\). Miscommunication regarding the expression's format initially caused confusion among participants.

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Homework Statement



i got a question on a quiz, but i really did not know how to solve it. the question that was stated was:
if \log_b x =0.8

Solve for
\log_b x(\sqrt[3]{x})

The Attempt at a Solution



basically what i attempted to do was
b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?EDIT:
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srizen said:

Homework Statement



i got a question on a quiz, but i really did not know how to solve it. the question that was stated was:
if Logbx = 0.8

Solve for
Logbx(3√x)
You're not solving for anything - you are evaluating this expression.

In any case, is that what you're working with?
log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})

If so, that's different from what you wrote.
srizen said:

The Attempt at a Solution



basically what i attempted to do was

Make Logbx = 0.8
into b0.8 = x
then i didn't know what to do ;S.

what steps do i need to do?
how do i solve for b/x?
 
Mark44 said:
You're not solving for anything - you are evaluating this expression.

In any case, is that what you're working with?
log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})

If so, that's different from what you wrote.

hmm, let me scan it, i don't know how to do all these math symbols
 

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I assume you mean log_{b}x\sqrt[3]{x}?

Try to get it so you have klog_{b}x, k constant
 
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Try to rewrite the expression
\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})
as a single power, ie.
\log_b(x^a)
for some number a. You'll then need the power property of logarithms.
 
eumyang said:
Try to rewrite the expression
\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})
as a single power, ie.
\log_b(x^a)
for some number a. You'll then need the power property of logarithms.

that would be simple, but its
\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})
 
srizen said:
that would be simple, but its
\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})

Use the relationship
x^{\frac{1}{a}} = \sqrt[a]{x}

And x^{a}x^{b} = x^{a+b}
 
srizen said:
that would be simple, but its
\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})

If it's supposed to be in that form as the question asks, which I suppose should mean

(\log_bx)(\sqrt[3]{x})

Then simply plug in 0.8 into the first bracket since you're already given that, and solve for x in \log_bx=0.8 to find \sqrt[3]{x}
 
Mentallic said:
If it's supposed to be in that form as the question asks, which I suppose should mean

(\log_bx)(\sqrt[3]{x})

Then simply plug in 0.8 into the first bracket since you're already given that, and solve for x in \log_bx=0.8 to find \sqrt[3]{x}

yea that's my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what I am doing so far:b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?
 
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srizen said:
yea that's my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what I am doing so far:


b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?

That's right. You know log_{b}x = 0.8, so sub that in.
 
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Bread18 said:
That's right. You know log_{b}x = 0.8, so sub that in.

the only problem is that, the answer should be 1.07 =/
 
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srizen said:
yea that's my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what I am doing so far:b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?

Ok so it IS meant to be log_b(x\sqrt[3]{x}) as opposed to (log_bx)\cdot \sqrt[3]{x}

Yes, the answer is 1.07, what's the problem? 0.8 + 1/3*0.8 = ?
 
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Mentallic said:
Ok so it IS meant to be log_b(x\sqrt[3]{x}) as opposed to (log_bx)\cdot \sqrt[3]{x}

Yes, the answer is 1.07, what's the problem? 0.8 + 1/3*0.8 = ?

ohh, ok i see my mistake now :S

this is such an easy problem, i was jus over thinking >_<
 
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Whoever wrote this problem did not communicate the problem in a clear way. The only way we could understand what was written was to reverse-engineer the solution. The problem should have been written so that it was clear what the argument of the log function was.
 
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srizen said:
ohh, ok i see my mistake now :S

this is such an easy problem, i was jus over thinking >_<
Yep :wink:

Mark44 said:
Whoever wrote this problem did not communicate the problem in a clear way. The only way we could understand what was written was to reverse-engineer the solution. The problem should have been written so that it was clear what the argument of the log function was.
I was about to ask for the solution if the OP didn't already provide it. This confusion was unnecessarily getting out of hand...

edit: the answer was written in the attachment. To be honest, it looked like effort to try and understand what was happening on that page so I gave up!
 

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