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The discussion revolves around the potential outcomes of collisions between different types of stellar remnants, specifically white dwarfs and neutron stars, and the types of supernovae that may result from such events. The scope includes theoretical considerations of stellar evolution, gravitational interactions, and the conditions necessary for supernovae to occur.

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  • Some participants propose that collisions between two white dwarfs or between a white dwarf and a neutron star could lead to supernovae, but the specific type remains uncertain.
  • Others argue that stars not in binary systems are unlikely to collide due to the vast distances between them, suggesting that stable orbits prevent mass exchange or collisions.
  • A participant notes that gravitational waves emitted by a binary system could cause the stars to gradually spiral towards each other, potentially leading to a merger.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the universe is old enough for neutron stars to have spiraled in sufficiently to merge and produce a supernova.
  • Another participant mentions that the rate at which orbits shrink may be faster than expected, leading to the possibility of a supernova upon merging.
  • Speculation arises regarding the conditions under which a neutron star and a companion could spiral close enough to form an event horizon without colliding, thus avoiding the radiation from a collision.

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Participants express differing views on the likelihood of collisions and the conditions necessary for supernovae, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a clear consensus.

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Limitations include assumptions about the stability of orbits, the age of the universe, and the conditions under which gravitational waves influence stellar interactions. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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If two white-dwarf stars combined together,there will be supernova?which type?---

(1)If two white-dwarf stars combined together,there will be supernova? which type?

(2)If two neutron stars combined together ,there will be supernova?

(3)If a white-dwarf and a neutron star combined together ,there will be supernova?

Thank you in advance!
 
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In all cases I suspect the answer would be yes however the question is how these collisions would occur? Stars not associated with each other (i.e. not a binary system) almost never collide, there is simply to much space between stars for there to be a reasonable chance that they will ever collide.

Interactions between stars in a binary system do lead to supernovae, usually when once star expands while in its red giant phase and sheds some material onto the companion star. Two white dwarves and/or neutron stars orbiting one another will have no way to exchange any mass or collide since the orbit is stable and they are in their final stage of evolution.
 
Two white dwarves and/or neutron stars orbiting one another will have no way to exchange any mass or collide since the orbit is stable and they are in their final stage of evolution.

Accordong to GR,this system will emit gravitational wave ,so they will gradually approach each other, finally they combind together!
 
Oh yes, good point!

I'm no expert on this but I would imagine the rate at which they lose energy and spiral inwards would be pretty slow such that I would be surprised if the Universe was old enough for any pairs of Neutron stars to have spiraled in sufficiently to do this. I may well be wrong though, but that would be my suspicion.
 
I would be surprised if the Universe was old enough for any pairs of Neutron stars to have spiraled in sufficiently to do this

You can login this website ,you will find the answer http://www.astro.cornell.edu/academics/courses/astro201/psr1913.htm
The pulsar's orbit is shrinking with time as shown in this diagram; currently, the orbit shrinks by about 3.1 mm per orbit. The two stars should merge in about 300 million years from now.

(Figure from Weisberg et al. 1981)
 
Looks like the orbits shrink a lot quicker than I expected. I guess they may well cause some kind of SN when they merge then.

I should stick to answering the question that I know the answer to :redface:
 
A neutron star is almost dense enough to be a black hole. I wonder if there is a point where a neutron star and a companion would spiral close enough to each other, without colliding, where their combined gravity can form an event horizon, sparing the universe the fate of being bathed in the awesome radiation emitted if they ever did collide?
 
tony873004 said:
A neutron star is almost dense enough to be a black hole. I wonder if there is a point where a neutron star and a companion would spiral close enough to each other, without colliding, where their combined gravity can form an event horizon, sparing the universe the fate of being bathed in the awesome radiation emitted if they ever did collide?

Although this event is powerful, if the distance is farther enough ,we are all very safe !
 

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