Importance of the first 3 primes

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The discussion centers around the significance of the first three prime numbers (2, 3, and 5) in mathematics, particularly in number theory. Participants explore various aspects of these primes, including their properties, their role in mathematical calculations, and their occurrences in biological contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in the relevance of the first three primes to number theory and questions whether being a multiple or power of these primes confers special properties to numbers.
  • Another participant mentions a common method for checking for primes that involves using 2 and 3, suggesting that this method eliminates a significant portion of integers from further testing.
  • Some participants note interesting biological facts related to the first three primes, such as the number of bones in the human body, but question their mathematical significance.
  • It is suggested that primes are fundamental to number theory, with the first primes appearing more frequently in various contexts compared to larger primes.
  • A participant discusses the relationship between integers divisible by different primes, indicating that while there are infinitely many integers divisible by any prime, the density of smaller primes is greater.
  • Another participant proposes that in a race to infinity, no triplet of positive integers has more multiples than 2, 3, and 5.
  • One participant mentions a property of primes greater than 5, specifically their squares modulo 30, adding a mathematical perspective to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of viewpoints regarding the significance of the first three primes, with some emphasizing their fundamental role in number theory while others question the direct implications of their biological occurrences. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the relevance of these primes.

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Some claims rely on specific definitions or assumptions about primes and their properties, which may not be universally accepted or clarified in the discussion.

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hey guys, I am a student engineer and have found that the laws we use are primarily based off of stats. this has led me to an interest in number theory and groupings. I was hoping someone could help me with somehing, i would like to know the relevance of the first 3 primes(2,3,5) to math in general. to be more specific, do the first three three primes play a significant role in number theory? I feel like i am being vague, so maybe i should ask, does being a multiple of 2, 3 or 5, or a power of one of these three give a number any special properties?
 
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When it comes to checking for primes, the usual suggested calculator program says to check for 2 and 3--which is very easy, and then run a program using [tex]6X\pm1[/tex].

That way 2/3 of the integers are eliminated from further testing.
 
It could be worth mentioning that we have a prime number of hands (2) with a prime number of fingers on each (5) and, therefore, count everything in groups of ten.
 
i suppose if we're taking such naturalist possibilities one could mention that our bodies are based off of the first 3 primes, in particular the number 3:

-30 bones in each arm and leg (3 x 2 x 5)
-26 vertabrae(though 2 are composites of 5 and 4, so in all there are 33 = [23 x 3] + 32 ]
-24 ribs( 23 x 3 )
-3 fused pelvic bones
 
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These are funny facts to know, but they lack the 'therefore' part: do they influence math in general, or number theory in particular?
 
I don't know how these relations help math persay, but life reflects math, and given the importance of primes to number theory, it is interesting to see that primes are also found in biology, specifically human biology.
 
Primes in general are fundamental to number theory, and naturally the first primes come up more often: half of the natural numbers are even, but not nearly so many are divisible by, say, 6547.
 
Tinyboss: Primes in general are fundamental to number theory, and naturally the first primes come up more often: half of the natural numbers are even, but not nearly so many are divisible by, say, 6547.

But even so there are an infinite number of integers divisible by 6547. And they could be put into 1-1 correspondance with numbers divisible by 2. [tex]6547n\Longleftrightarrow2n[/tex]
 
robert Ihnot said:
Tinyboss: Primes in general are fundamental to number theory, and naturally the first primes come up more often: half of the natural numbers are even, but not nearly so many are divisible by, say, 6547.

But even so there are an infinite number of integers divisible by 6547. And they could be put into 1-1 correspondance with numbers divisible by 2. [tex]6547n\Longleftrightarrow2n[/tex]

Yeah, I was playing a little fast and loose there, but what I meant was small integers, the kind like trini mentions, for instance, or the kind that show up as the order of sporadic groups, and so forth. Not that |Z/nZ| depends on n.
 
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here's my take on it, in a race to inifinity, no triplet of positive integers has more multiples than 2, 3 and 5 (not including 1 of course)
 
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The square of all primes greater than 5 is either (1 mod 30) or (19 mod 30).
 

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