Improve Piano Sound: How to Slow Down Dampers for a Cleaner Performance

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The discussion focuses on solutions for reducing the thumping sound produced by piano dampers when the pedal is released quickly. Live sound engineers are exploring methods to slow down the dampers using devices that can be easily mounted on grand pianos. Suggestions include using trunk struts or hatch struts to limit the motion of the pedal rod and employing soft-close dampers, commonly found in hardware stores, to achieve a gradual release. Additionally, a foam block with varying density is proposed as a potential solution for cushioning the dampers' landing.

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  • Understanding of grand piano mechanics and pedal operation
  • Familiarity with sound engineering principles
  • Knowledge of soft-close damper mechanisms
  • Basic skills in DIY modifications and mounting devices
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  • Research "trunk strut/hatch strut/universal lift support" for potential applications
  • Explore "soft-close damper" products available at hardware stores
  • Investigate the use of foam materials for sound dampening in musical instruments
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Hello all,

I am a live sound engineer looking for a creative way to slow down the dampers on a grand piano as the pedal is released. When the piano pedal is depressed, the dampers lift off of the strings, and when the pedal is released, the dampers come back down on the strings to mute them. The problem is that when the dampers land on the strings, a thumping sound is made which is picked up by nearby microphones. The thump is mostly present when the pedal is released quickly, and not nearly as present when the release is gradual and slow. I need to come up with some device which can be quickly and easily mounted to the piano that will slow down the dampers just before they land on the strings, much like a jumper pulling a parachute before landing. Probably the easiest piece on the piano to manipulate would be the vertical rod which the pedal pushes on. It's range of motion is about 1/2" up and down. There is also a wooden lever which the rod pushes, but it might not be easily accessible on all pianos (this device needs to be portable and fitted to all grand pianos). The pedal itself may be hard to manipulate because it must be played and there is often very little room between it and the ground, and the dampers themselves are out of the question as most musicians would freak out at the sight of any foreign objects placed inside their piano aside from microphones. Any ideas?
Thanks!
 
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Google "trunk strut/hatch strut/universal lift support;" fit a clamp to the "pedal rod" on both ends.
 
That's a great idea! Do you think there is a small one which allows free motion except for at the very end of the cycle, probably 1/8" or less of restricted motion right at the end of a 1/2" total motion?
 
A friend suggested using a foam block that is dense only on one end... as the pedal comes down to rest on the foam, it's rate of deceleration increases as it compresses the more dense areas near the end. See any merit to this?
 
fohman said:
foam block
Duh o:). That's even better ---- less mechanical opportunity for failure.
 
what about those things that cause cupboards and drawers to close slowly at the end instead of slamming shut? anybody know what they are called, or where to buy them?
 

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