Incline max angle physics problem

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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum angle for an entrance ramp designed for a grocery cart, given a maximum force that customers are willing to exert. The problem involves concepts from physics related to forces on an incline.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the force exerted on the ramp and the angle of incline, questioning the adequacy of the given information and discussing the application of the formula F=mg sin(theta) to find the angle.

Discussion Status

Several participants have engaged in calculations and shared their reasoning. There is acknowledgment of a calculated angle around 5.85 degrees, with some participants confirming the validity of this angle as the maximum before customer complaints arise. However, there is no explicit consensus on the completeness of the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential missing information and express uncertainty about the problem's requirements, particularly regarding the assumptions made about friction and the force exerted by customers.

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we have to design an entrance ramp for the new megamart. the maximum force customers will exert without complaint is 20N, ignoring friction at what maximum angle should the ramp be built assuming a full 20 kg grocery cart?

i've almost drawn at a blank it just seems like the question is missing something is there any other way besides trial and error, even miniscule hints would be appreciated
 
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The variable is angle of the ramp. On this incline the tangential force on a 20kg stationary grocery cart should be 20N. The gravitational force is mg. How much is tangential at an angle theta? Can you solve for the angle?
 
im still confused a bit the angle is it 5.8ish I am not sure exactly what I am missing
f=mg sin(theta)
 
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You didn't show much of your work there. Yes, it is 5.8ish if you mean degrees. It's hard to tell what you are missing if you don't say what you did or why you don't think it's right.
 
ok what i did was used the formula F=mg sin(Theta) and punched in
20=20(9.81) sin (theta)
20/196.2=sin(theta)
sin-1(.101...)=theta
theta = 5.85
?
so when i get this angle is that the maximum it can be?
 
At that angle holding a 20kg grocery cart at constant acceleration will need a force of 20N. If the angle is larger, the force is larger. And I guess that means the customers will complain. Well done.
 
thanks a lot!
 

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