Indirect Airflow for Safe Extraction of Hydrogen from Lead-Acid Battery Room

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the safe extraction of hydrogen gas from a lead-acid battery room, focusing on airflow management and ventilation strategies. Participants explore various methods to create negative pressure and ensure safety while handling flammable gases.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about using a regular fan to create negative pressure in the battery room without direct airflow.
  • Another suggests blowing air into the battery room to create positive pressure, allowing it to leak out through non-air-tight walls.
  • A participant expresses concern that blowing air into the room could mix hydrogen with air, leading to potential hazards due to openings left for airflow.
  • It is proposed to include passive air vents near the ceiling to account for hydrogen's lower density compared to air.
  • Safety considerations are raised regarding the use of non-sparking, low-voltage fans, and the suggestion to use multiple fans for redundancy is made.
  • One participant emphasizes that any fan system should be designed by a registered professional engineer due to safety and code implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best approach to ventilate the battery room safely, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method for hydrogen extraction.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of local safety ordinances and potential safety implications of different fan systems, but specific assumptions and safety codes are not fully detailed.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals involved in battery maintenance, safety engineering, or those interested in gas extraction and ventilation systems may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello,

I need to extract a flammable gas (hydrogen) from a lead-acid battery room.

Is there a way to use a regular fan without putting it in the airflow (hence to produce some degree of negative pressure in the battery room)?

I've made a little sketch to illustrate the actual situation. Thank you in advance for any suggestion.
 

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You could blow air into the battery room, creating a positive pressure, and let it leak out from walls that at not air tight.

You can also do both, a forced draft fan blowing in and an induced draft fan blowing out. Together, they produce a draft in a zero gauge pressure room.
 
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Thank you very much for your quick reply (and for your kind, welcoming words)!

Blowing air in the battery room was my first attempt but the room isn't entirely air tight (as i left some openings at the bottom to allow an airflow through the exhaust pipe). If I will blow air in the battery room, chances are the hydrogen will get mixed with the air and will escape through those bottom openings, too.

Anyway, may I only use an external fan as displayed in the sketch above?
 
Given hydrogen gas is less dense than air, I'd include some passive air vents near the ceiling, too...
Although your choice may come down to local safety ordinances etc, with eg 'mine-grade flame-proof' demanded by your insurance assesor, may I suggest using non-sparking, low-voltage fans ? Plural, lest one fails, of course, of course.
If you're careful, you may be able to run them off the battery bank, ensuring another possible failure mode is nailed down...
 
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Most belt drive fans have their motors outside the airstream, but this type of system has safety and code implications, so it should really be designed by a registered professional engineer. Thread locked for safety/liability reasons.
 

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