Induction Proof for A^n = 1 2^nProve your formula by mathematical induction.

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A^n = 1 2^n
0 1
Prove your formula by mathematical induction.

I began by taking A to successive powers but not sure of what my formula should be.

A^0 = 1 0 , A^1 = 1 2 , A^2 = 1 4 , A^3 = 1 6 , A^4 = 1 8 , A^5 = 1 8
0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1

Obviously the a(12) element increases by two with each successive power but I'm not sure how to proceed from here. The induction proof isn't very intuitive to me either. Please help.
 
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jedishrfu said:
I don’t understand what you wrote. Does A have a value?

Sorry, looks like the matrices didn't go through the way I typed them out. With each successive power the a12component increases by two.

1 2 = A
0 1
 
Robb said:
Sorry, looks like the matrices didn't go through the way I typed them out. With each successive power the a12component increases by two.

1 2 = A
0 1
1 2 = A2
0 1
 
Robb said:
1 2 = A2
0 1
I apologize, I'm a bit out of sorts
1 2 = A^n
0 1
 
Robb said:
Sorry, looks like the matrices didn't go through the way I typed them out. With each successive power the a12component increases by two.

1 2 = A
0 1

Okay, I think I can see what you have to prove. What do you know about induction?
 
We went over it very briefly the other day which was my first intro to it. Basically prove an initial case then prove the k + 1 case.
 
Robb said:
We went over it very briefly the other day which was my first intro to it. Basically prove an initial case then prove the k + 1 case.

Not quite. Prove the ##k+1## case, assuming the ##k## case.

Can you have a try at that?
 
We were told to develop an equation based on A^n, where n = 1, 2, 3,..., n. Then prove the equation. I guess this is my first stumbling block. I'm not sure of the equation. The example used was n(n+1)/2.
 
Robb said:
We were told to develop an equation based on A^n, where n = 1, 2, 3,..., n. Then prove the equation. I guess this is my first stumbling block. I'm not sure of the equation. The example used was n(n+1)/2.

Induction is logic. It goes like this. Suppose you check that something is true for ##k = 1## and then you prove that if it is true for ##k##, it is true for ##k +1##. Then, you can reason as follows

It's true for ##k = 1##, hence it's true for ##k = 1 + 1 = 2##; and

since it's true for ##k = 2## it's true for ##k = 2 + 1 = 3##; and,

since it's true for ##k = 3##, it's true for ##k = 3 + 1 = 4##; and,

hence it must be true for all ##k##.

That's the principle of induction.

Does that make sense?
 
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Yes. I guess where I'm not connecting the points is how to apply it to this particular problem. Is it as simple as above,

so, A^k

K =1

so, k+1 = 1+1 = 2
k = 2+1 = 3, and so on?
 
Robb said:
Yes. I guess where I'm not connecting the points is how to apply it to this particular problem. Is it as simple as above,

so, A^k

K =1

so, k+1 = 1+1 = 2
k = 2+1 = 3, and so on?

Can you check whether it's true for ##k = 1##?
 
When k=1 I get the original matrix A so, I assume that it is true.
 
Robb said:
When k=1 I get the original matrix A so, I assume that it is true.

Let's go with that. What happens if you assume it is true for ##k##? Can you write down what that assumption means? And, can you show that - with that assumption - the statement is true for ##k + 1##?
 
When k=1, A^k = A
When k=k+1=1+1, A^k = A^2
when k=2+1, A^k = A^3
and so on
 
Robb said:
When k=1, A^k = A
When k=k+1=1+1, A^k = A^2
when k=2+1, A^k = A^3
and so on

Okay, so you haven't understood it at all! Probably best to try the above material. See if you can get a grip in induction somehow.
 
PeroK said:
Okay, so you haven't understood it at all! Probably best to try the above material. See if you can get a grip in induction somehow.

Crap! Ok, I'll check it out. I appreciate the help!
 
Robb said:
this is my first stumbling block. I'm not sure of the equation.
You can see from the cases you tried that only one number changes. So you know the general form is
##A^n= \begin{bmatrix}
1 & f_n\\
0 & 1
\end{bmatrix}##
Can you get a recurrence relation for fn?
 
Prove true for k=1. Then rewrite Ak+1 in terms of Ak and use the assumption that it is true for k to deal with Ak. That should let you prove it for all 1 (prove), 2, ..., k (assume), k+1 (prove), ...
 
FactChecker said:
Prove true for k=1. Then rewrite Ak+1 in terms of Ak and use the assumption that it is true for k to deal with Ak. That should let you prove it for all 1 (prove), 2, ..., k (assume), k+1 (prove), ...
Yes, that's induction, but it seems the immediate difficulty is in constructing the formula to be proved.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, that's induction, but it seems the immediate difficulty is in constructing the formula to be proved.
This is the step that I don't see him making any attempt at: rewrite Ak+1 in terms of Ak.
So I thought it was worth asking for it directly. Maybe I missed it, but I have trouble understanding his posts.
 
haruspex said:
You can see from the cases you tried that only one number changes. So you know the general form is
##A^n= \begin{bmatrix}
1 & f_n\\
0 & 1
\end{bmatrix}##
Can you get a recurrence relation for fn?

fn = 2n
 
Robb said:
fn = 2n
Later edit: No.
Let's get back to the original problem, with ##A = \begin{bmatrix}1 & 2 \\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}##
What is A2?
What is A3?
Continue until you can see a pattern develop.

I'm assuming you know how to multiply two 2 x 2 matrices.
 
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Mark44 said:
No.
Let's get back to the original problem, with ##A = \begin{bmatrix}1 & 2 \\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}##
What is A2?
What is A3?
Continue until you can see a pattern develop.

I'm assuming you know how to multiply two 2 x 2 matrices.

##A2 = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 4 \\ 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}##
##A3 = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 6 \\ 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}##

so,
n = 1, fn = 2
n = 2, fn = 4
n = 3, fn = 6
n =4, fn = 8
and so on. As n increases in value by increments of 1, fn increases by 2n. All other values of the matrices remain unchanged.