Inequality involves radical, square and factorial expression 3√{x}+2y+1z^2⩽ 13

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality \(3!\sqrt{x}+2!y+1!z^2\le 13\) under the condition that \(x^2+y^2+z^2+xyz=4\) with \(x, y, z \ge 0\). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and attempts to clarify the expressions involved.

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  • One participant presents the inequality to be proven, stating the conditions on \(x\), \(y\), and \(z\).
  • Another participant questions the formulation, suggesting there may be a typo in the expression involving \(z^2\).
  • A subsequent reply acknowledges the typo and indicates it has been corrected.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the initial line of the inequality, indicating a need for clarification.

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Participants have noted potential typographical errors and expressed uncertainty about the initial conditions and expressions, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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If $x^2+y^2+z^2+xyz=4$ and that $x,\,y,\,x\ge 0$, prove $3!\sqrt{x}+2!y+1!z^2\le 13$.
 
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Is there a typo? Should it be …

anemone said:
If $x^2+y^2+{\color{red}z}^2+xyz=4$ and that $x,\,y,\,x\ge 0$, prove $3!\sqrt{x}+2!y+1!z^2\le 13$.
 
Olinguito said:
Is there a typo? Should it be …


Indeed it is a typo(Tmi), sorry about that, and I just fixed it! Thanks for catching the typo!(Yes)
 
My attempt.

We have (by AM–GM or otherwise):
$$\begin{array}{rcl}6\sqrt x &\le& x^2+\dfrac{81}{16}+1+1 \\ 2y &\le& y^2+1 \\ z^2 &\le& z^2+xyz\end{array}$$
$\begin{array}{rl}\implies & 6\sqrt x+2y+z^2 \\ \le & x^2+y^2+z^2+xyz+\dfrac{129}{16}\ =\ \dfrac{193}{16}\ <\ 13.\end{array}$
 
Olinguito said:
My attempt.

We have (by AM–GM or otherwise):
$$\begin{array}{rcl}6\sqrt x &\le& x^2+\dfrac{81}{16}+1+1 \\ 2y &\le& y^2+1 \\ z^2 &\le& z^2+xyz\end{array}$$
$\begin{array}{rl}\implies & 6\sqrt x+2y+z^2 \\ \le & x^2+y^2+z^2+xyz+\dfrac{129}{16}\ =\ \dfrac{193}{16}\ <\ 13.\end{array}$


I do not understand the 1st line
 
$$\frac{x^2+\dfrac{81}{16}+1+1}4\ \ge\ \sqrt[4]{(x^2)\left(\frac{81}{16}\right)(1)(1)}$$
(AM–GM). Did I get it wrong? (Sweating)
 
Olinguito said:
$$\frac{x^2+\dfrac{81}{16}+1+1}4\ \ge\ \sqrt[4]{(x^2)\left(\frac{81}{16}\right)(1)(1)}$$
(AM–GM). Did I get it wrong? (Sweating)


I never said it was wrong. I said In did not understand. Thanks or clarifying. It is correct
 

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