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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality |(z - w)/(1 - \overline{z}w)| < 1 for complex numbers z and w, both with magnitudes less than 1. A participant initially struggled with the proof using rectangular coordinates but later found that the problem had been previously addressed. Another member shared a detailed solution, emphasizing the relationship between the magnitudes of z and w and their complex conjugates. They demonstrated that the inequality holds by manipulating the expressions and confirming the conditions under which the inequality remains valid. The conversation highlights the value of revisiting mathematical problems and exploring different proof methods.
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Here's a fun problem proof I came across. Show that

$$\left| \frac { z- w }{1 - \overline{z}w} \right| < 1$$

given $$|z|<1$$, $$|w|<1$$. I attempted writing z and w in rectangular coordinates (a+bi) but to no avail. Any suggestions, forum?
 
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Ironically, I thought it was a fun inequality problem too! XD

http://mathhelpboards.com/potw-graduate-students-45/problem-week-6-july-9th-2012-a-1408.html
 
Would you look at that, it was already treated unbeknownst to me (which just nullifies this thread, I'll have it depreciated). Thanks!
 
sweatingbear said:
Would you look at that, it was already treated unbeknownst to me (which just nullifies this thread, I'll have it depreciated). Thanks!

Don't agree , others might have different approaches.
 
sweatingbear said:
Would you look at that, it was already treated unbeknownst to me (which just nullifies this thread, I'll have it depreciated). Thanks!

Nah, no need to worry about that. It's always good to revisit older problems. The thing I would be interested in is if there's another way to do it than the way I presented in that link.
 
I neglected to respond to POTW #6 in July 2012, so here is my solution to the problem. It relies on the fact that $\overline{z}z = |z|^2$.

Start with the fact that $(1-|z|^2)(1-|w|^2) > 0$. Then $$(1 - \overline{z}z)(1 - \overline{w}w) > 0,$$ $$1 - \overline{z}z - \overline{w}w + \overline{z}z\,\overline{w}w > 0,$$ $$\overline{z}z + \overline{w}w < 1 + \overline{z}z\,\overline{w}w.$$ Now subtract $\overline{z}w + \overline{w}z\ (=2\mathrm{Re}(\overline{z}w))$ from both sides: $$\overline{z}z - \overline{z}w - \overline{w}z + \overline{w}w < 1 - \overline{z}w - \overline{w}z + \overline{z}z\,\overline{w}w,$$ $$(\overline{z} - \overline{w})(z-w) < (1-\overline{z}w)(1-z\overline{w}),$$ $$|z-w|^2 < |1-\overline{z}w|^2$$ and finally, taking square roots, $$|z-w| < |1-\overline{z}w|,$$ $$\left|\frac{z-w}{1-\overline{z}w}\right|< 1.$$

Edit. Having looked at Chris's solution to POTW #6, I see that my solution is essentially the same as his.
 
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Chris L T521 said:
The thing I would be interested in is if there's another way to do it than the way I presented in that link.

The given statement can be written $ |z-w| < |1 - \overline{z}w| $, which equivalently is $ |z-w|^2 < |1 - \overline{z}w|^2 $.

Let $ z = a +bi $ and $ w = c + di $. Thus $a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 < (a^2+b^2)(c^2 + d^2) + 1$, or equivalently, $|z|^2 + |w|^2 < 1 + |z|^2 |w|^2 $. That statement is always true; we could write it as $ p + q < 1 + pq $ for $p<1$ and $q < 1$. This can be shown by expanding $ (1-p)(1-q) > 0 $.
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