MHB Initial value problem for exact equations

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The discussion focuses on solving the initial value problem for an exact equation, specifically addressing the equation (x+y)^2 dx +(2xy+x^2-1)dy = 0 with the initial condition y(1)=1. Key questions include whether M(x, y) is a function of both variables or just one, the inclusion of dx in M, and the omission of the constant of integration C in the solution process. The participant also seeks clarification on the application of exponents in fractions and the impact of multiplying through by denominators on initial values. The conversation emphasizes the importance of establishing a clear procedure to avoid errors in solving such problems.
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I've got a few small questions I'd like to straighten out. I'm really trying to establish a firm procedure involving the steps I write down because I find it helps me learn the math and avoid errors.

Solve the initial value problem: [math](x+y)^2 dx +(2xy+x^2-1)dy = 0[/math] with [math]y(1)=1[/math]

So let [math]M(x, y) =(x+y)^2[/math]

Question 1: I write M(x, y) because M is a function of x and y. I that correct or is M only a function of one variable?

Question 2: should dx be part of the equation for M(x, y) or no?

let [math]N(x, y) = 2xy+x^2-1[/math]

[math]\frac{\partial M(x, y)}{\partial y}= \frac{\partial}{\partial y} (x^2+y^2+2xy)=2y+2x[/math]
[math]\frac{\partial N(x, y)}{\partial x}=2y+2x[/math] therefore equation is exact
[math]\frac{ \partial f(x, y)}{\partial x} = M(x, y) = x^2+y^2+2xy[/math] implies [math]f(x, y)= \int x^2+y^2+2xy dx = \frac{x^3}{3}+y^2x+x^2y+g(y)[/math]

[math]\frac{ \partial f(x, y)}{ \partial y} N(x, y) = 2xy+x^2-1 = 2yx+y+g'(y)[/math] solving for [math]g'(y)=x^2-y-1[/math]
[math]g(y)= \int x^2-y-1 dy = x^2y-\frac{y^2}{2}-y[/math]
Question 3: following the examples in my textbook I noticed we don't have a [math]C[/math] for the constant of integration. Why does it get omitted?
so [math]f(x, y) = \frac{x^3}{3}+y^2x+x^2y+x^2y-\frac{y^2}{2}-y=\frac{x^3}{3}+y^2x+2x^2y-\frac{y^2}{2}-y=C[/math]

Now plugging in initial values

[math]\frac{1^3}{3} + 1 +2 - \frac{1^2}{2} -1 = C[/math]
Question 4: a little embarrassing but does the exponent apply to the whole fraction or just the numerator? For example is [math]\frac{1^3}{3}=\frac{1}{3}[/math] or [math]\frac{1^3}{3} = \frac{1}{3} \cdot \frac{1}{3} \cdot \frac{1}{3}[/math]? Obviously in LaTex I'm writing it as the 3 only applies to the 1 but given the context that the derivative of [math]x^n=(n-1)x^{n-1}[/math] which is it?

Question 5: in an example my textbook takes the equation an multiplies away the denominators. Doesn't this mess up the initial values and finding C? For example
[math]\frac{1^3}{3} + 1 +2 - \frac{1^2}{2} -1 = C[/math]
multiply both sides of the equation by 6
[math]2 \cdot 1^3 +6+12-3\cdot 1^2-6=6C_1=C[/math]
 
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