Integrating Factor and Potential Function for Non-Exact Multi-Variable ODEs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of a non-exact multi-variable ordinary differential equation (ODE) and the search for an integrating factor and potential function. Participants explore methods to demonstrate the non-exactness of the equation, find an integrating factor, and derive the potential function.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation (2/y + y/x)dx + (3y/x + 2)dy and demonstrates its non-exactness by showing that the mixed partials are not equal.
  • Another participant suggests that the equation should be set to zero to clarify its status as an equation.
  • There is a proposal to multiply the equation by xy to eliminate fractions and achieve an exact equation.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about how to find an integrating factor other than through experience or guessing.
  • One participant mentions that sometimes an integrating factor can be a pure function of x or y.
  • A later reply references an article and an example from a tutorial to assist in understanding how to solve the equation once it is made exact.
  • Another participant reflects on their previous overcomplication of the problem and questions how multiplying by an integrating factor affects the general solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of multiplying by xy to achieve an exact equation, but there remains uncertainty regarding the process of finding an integrating factor and solving for the potential function. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of applying textbook methods to multi-variable problems and the nature of integrating factors. There are unresolved questions about the implications of using integrating factors on the general solution.

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Hello All,
Given the equation (2/y + y/x)dx + (3y/x + 2)dy
I am first asked to show the equation is not exact. To do this I showed the mixed partials were not equal i.e.:
(2/y + y/x)dy != (3y/x + 2)dx

I am then asked to find an integrating factor and show the potential function is given by
f = x^2 + y^3 + xy^2

I have consulted my ODE's textbook but can not see how to apply the methods there to a multi-variable problem. I also haven't had much luck online.

Thank you for your help
 
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sleventh said:
Hello All,
Given the equation (2/y + y/x)dx + (3y/x + 2)dy

That isn't an equation; it is just an expression. Perhaps you want to set it = 0.
I am first asked to show the equation is not exact. To do this I showed the mixed partials were not equal i.e.:
(2/y + y/x)dy != (3y/x + 2)dx

I am then asked to find an integrating factor and show the potential function is given by
f = x^2 + y^3 + xy^2

I have consulted my ODE's textbook but can not see how to apply the methods there to a multi-variable problem. I also haven't had much luck online.

Thank you for your help

Try multiplying your equation by xy to clear the fractions. Also, since you are given a potential function, you could work backwards to see what to do.
 
thank for your reply LCKurts
I see how multiplying by xy allows for an exact equation (and i think it's assumed to equal zero) since the mixed partials are equal. But to be honest, I do not see how you solve for the integrating factor other then guess by experience nor do I see how to actually solve for f(x,y) once you have your integrating factor. Thank you for any help.
 
sleventh said:
thank for your reply LCKurts
I see how multiplying by xy allows for an exact equation (and i think it's assumed to equal zero) since the mixed partials are equal. But to be honest, I do not see how you solve for the integrating factor other then guess by experience nor do I see how to actually solve for f(x,y) once you have your integrating factor. Thank you for any help.

Well, multiplying by xy is a no-brainer to get rid of the fractions. Sometimes if an equation is not exact, you can find an integrating factor that is a pure function of x or y. If you are interested, I printed an article about that that you can read as post #2 in the thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=342132

As to how to solve the equation once you have it exact, look at example 2 in

http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Exact.aspx

for an easy to read example.
 
That example was incredibly helpful. I was overcomplicating but now see it is in the fact
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can be written from
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looking at the single variable case i thought you had to use the e^int(p(x)) expression, but that is just a simple case used as example.

One last question i do not see how multiplying by a integrating factor allows for a general solution. Wouldn't you be changing your function by doing this?
 

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