Interactions and External Forces in Physical Systems

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The discussion revolves around identifying and categorizing interactions between objects in various physical contexts, focusing on macroscopic interaction categories such as long-range and contact interactions. The scenarios include a hockey puck on ice, a person sitting on a chair, a leaf falling, a magnet on a refrigerator, a paper bit near a charged comb, a child on a merry-go-round, and a car accelerating on a road.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to categorize interactions for each scenario, questioning the presence of friction, tension, and compression interactions. Some express confusion about how different forces interact, particularly in the context of the car's acceleration and the child's suspension on the merry-go-round.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring various interpretations of the interactions involved. Some have provided insights into the mechanics of friction and gravitational forces, while others are seeking clarification on specific concepts such as tension and compression. There is no explicit consensus yet, as multiple interpretations are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of the interactions and express uncertainty about how certain forces, like air compression or tension, contribute to the scenarios described. There is also mention of homework constraints that may limit the depth of exploration.

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Homework Statement



Each part of this problem describes an object in a specific physical context in which it interacts with other objects. In each case, use the macroscopic interaction categories to list the ways that the object interacts with its surroundings; and for each listed interaction, state the other object involved. Remember that an interaction, if unopposed, will act to change the object’s velocity, but two opposed interactions may cancel each other’s effect on the velocity. Do the best you can; some of these are hard! >_<

0) A hockey puck sliding on rough ice

a) A person sits on a chair.

b) A leaf falls from a tree. (Consider the leaf after it has left the tree

c) A magnet sticks to the side of a refrigerator.

d) A tiny bit of paper jumps from a tabletop toward an electrically charged comb. (Consider the bit after it has left the tabletop but before it reaches the comb.)

e) Difficult: A child hangs on to a playground merry-go-round that is rotating so rapidly that the child is suspended above the ground. (ignore air friction)

f) Difficult: A car accelerates down a road. We will see later in this unit that processes internal to an object can never change the motion of the object as a whole: only an interaction with something external can do this. If this is so, what interaction increases the car’s speed? Would the acceleration be possible if the road were very slippery?


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Macroscopic Interactions (2 categories)

A. Long-range interactions—that allow objects to influence one another over significant distance
1) Electrostatic interactions—involve at least one electrically
charged object
2) Magnetic interactions—involve at least one magnet
3) Gravitational interactions
B. Contact interactions—arise only when objects come into direct physical contact
1) Friction interactions—oppose the relative motion of the
objects in contact
2) Compression interactions—seek to keep them from merging
3) Tension interactions—oppose their separation

The Attempt at a Solution



a) A person sits on a chair.
Long-range: Gravitational interaction: Between the Earth and both the chair and the person
Contact: Compression interaction: Between the chair and the person

Is there any friction or electrostatic interaction occurring here?

b) A leaf falls from a tree. (Consider the leaf after it has left the tree but before it hits the ground.)
Long range: Gravitational interaction: Between Earth and leaf
Contact: Friction interaction: Between air and leaf
Contact: Compression interaction: Between air and leaf

c) A magnet sticks to the side of a refrigerator.
Long-range: Magnetic interaction: Between magnet and refrigerator
Long-range: Gravitational interaction: Between Earth and both magnet and refrigerator
Contact: ?

d) A tiny bit of paper jumps from a tabletop toward an electrically charged comb. (Consider the bit after it has left the tabletop but before it reaches the comb.)

Long-range: Electrostatic interaction
Long-range: Gravitational
?

e) Difficult: A child hangs on to a playground merry-go-round that is rotating so rapidly that the child is suspended above the ground. (ignore air friction)

Long-range: Gravitational

f) Difficult: A car accelerates down a road. We will see later in this unit that processes internal to an object can never change the motion of the object as a whole: only an interaction with something external can do this. If this is so, what interaction increases the car’s speed? Would the acceleration be possible if the road were very slippery?

Long-range: Gravitational
I don't understand this one at all...

Thanks for the help, everyone.
 
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f) Difficult: A car accelerates down a road. We will see later in this unit that processes internal to an object can never change the motion of the object as a whole: only an interaction with something external can do this. If this is so, what interaction increases the car’s speed? Would the acceleration be possible if the road were very slippery?

Long-range: Gravitational
The car accelerates by virtue of the torque applied by the engine, through the transmission to the wheels. The tire get 'traction' by virtue of friction between the surface of the tire and the surface of the road. Friction is proportional to the weight of the car, which is the product of acceleration of gravity and mass of the car, and the proportionality constant is the coefficient of friction.

c) A magnet sticks to the side of a refrigerator.
Long-range: Magnetic interaction: Between magnet and refrigerator
Long-range: Gravitational interaction: Between Earth and both magnet and refrigerator
Contact: ?
What keeps the magnet from sliding down the side of the refigerator?


e) Difficult: A child hangs on to a playground merry-go-round that is rotating so rapidly that the child is suspended above the ground. (ignore air friction)

Long-range: Gravitational
Gravity is pulling down, but what causes the child to be suspended? What is the force opposing gravity? Certainly the child is hanging on, so there must be ___________ in the arms.


What about the hockey puck on rough ice?

Electrostatic attraction is a relatively short range phenomenon, and so is magnetic attraction.
 
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Astronuc said:
The car accelerates by virtue of the torque applied by the engine, through the transmission to the wheels. The tire get 'traction' by virtue of friction between the surface of the tire and the surface of the road. Friction is proportional to the weight of the car, which is the product of acceleration of gravity and mass of the car, and the proportionality constant is the coefficient of friction.

Whoa, that's complicated. So are you saying that there is friction interaction between tire and road, and gravitational interaction between car and earth?

Astronuc said:
What keeps the magnet from sliding down the side of the refigerator?
I'm very confused about these interactions. Could you explain to me what compression and friction and tension interactions are? Doesn't the magnetic interaction keep the magnet from sliding off?
Astronuc said:
Gravity is pulling down, but what causes the child to be suspended? What is the force opposing gravity?
Certainly the child is hanging on, so there must be tension interaction? in the arms.
Astronuc said:
What about the hockey puck on rough ice?
Well, there is compression friction holding the hockey up on the ice, against gravity, which pulls it down. I don't think there's tension interaction or electrostatic or magnetic here.

Astronuc said:
Electrostatic attraction is a relatively short range phenomenon, and so is magnetic attraction.

Thank you for our help, Astronuc.
 
Tension is a pulling force. If one pulls on a coil spring, it extends (lengthens). It is under tension.

Compression is a pushing force. If one pushes on a spring, it contracts (shortens). It is under compression.

Friction is a shear force acting perpendicular to the normal force. In the case of gravity, the weight is a function of mass and acceleration due to gravity. The weight of the car pushes down on the road surface, which is pushing back. The weight acts downward, normal to the horizontal.

Friction operates parallel with the interaction surfaces, and is proptional to the compressive normal force acting at that surface.

In the case of the magnet on the refrigerator, and magnetic field applies a magnetic force and the magnet is pushed against the surface of the refrigerator. Friction then acts in proportion to the compressive force (magnet pushing against refrigerator).

The child must have tension in the arms because the child's mass wants to travel tangent to the merry-go-round. Think centripetal force.
 
What keeps the child from falling off though? Compression with the air? I don't understand how the air can lift the weight of the child, though.
 

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