Interest Theory- Annuity Withdrawals

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The discussion focuses on calculating the withdrawal amount from a $5,000 investment at a 6% interest rate, compounded semiannually, to deplete the fund by the end of 20 years. The present value annuity-immediate equation is utilized to establish the relationship between the withdrawal amount and the present value of the annuity. Participants clarify that withdrawals can be treated similarly to deposits in terms of present value calculations, as both represent cash flows affecting the account balance over time.

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Homework Statement



Consider an investment of $5,000 at 6% convertible semiannually. How much can be withdrawn
each half−year to use up the fund exactly at the end of 20 years?



Homework Equations


the present value annuity-immediate equation
equation of value relating 5000 to the above equation


The Attempt at a Solution


withdrawal is unknown
5000 = withdrawal * present value of annuity

I have a more urgent question: why can a withdrawal value be multiplied by the present value function when the withdrawal is being taken out? My thinking is the present value function can only be multiplied by deposits because deposits will be affected by interest. This question bothers me more than solving the problem.
 
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uestions said:

Homework Statement



Consider an investment of $5,000 at 6% convertible semiannually. How much can be withdrawn
each half−year to use up the fund exactly at the end of 20 years?



Homework Equations


the present value annuity-immediate equation
equation of value relating 5000 to the above equation


The Attempt at a Solution


withdrawal is unknown
5000 = withdrawal * present value of annuity

I have a more urgent question: why can a withdrawal value be multiplied by the present value function when the withdrawal is being taken out? My thinking is the present value function can only be multiplied by deposits because deposits will be affected by interest. This question bothers me more than solving the problem.

Two answers:
(1) Withdrawals are the opposite of deposits, so the present value of a series of payments is numerically equal to the present value of the same series of withdrawals. In other words, it is true just because of the math.

However, I suspect you agree with the math but are still a bit mystified by why it works, so here is another answer.

(2) We can work out a detailed explanation, step-by-step (but for a much smaller example).

Look at the PV of two withdrawals of $1 at times t = 0 and 1 (with 1-period interest = r). The PV is ##PV_2## (the '2' standing for two withdrawals)
PV_2 = 1 + \frac{1}{1+r}
We start with ##PV_2## dollars in the bank. After the initial $1 withdrawal at time t = 0 the bank account contains $##1/(1+r)##. Because of interest earned, this grows to $##(1+r) \times 1/(1+r) = 1## at time t = 1, when our second withdrawal of $1 empties the bank account.

Now let's try it again for three $1 withdrawals at times t = 0,1,2. The PV is ##PV_3##:
PV_3 = 1 + \frac{1}{1+r} + \frac{1}{(1+r)^2}
We start with $##PV_3## in the bank. At t = 0 we withdraw $1 and so are left with a balance of
B_1 = \frac{1}{1+r} + \frac{1}{(1+r)^2}
at time t = 1 (just after the withdrawal). This grows to ##B_2 = (1+r)B_1## at time t = 1; here,
B_2 = 1 + \frac{1}{1+r}
and we still have two $1 withdrawals to go. But that case was already treated in the previous example; that is ##B_2 = PV_2##, and we already know from before that two more $1 withdrawals will empty the bank account. So, again, the PV represents the total effects of withdrawals plus interest earned throughout the payment period---in such a way that we end up with exactly $0 at the end.

For larger problems having more than three payments you can just do something similar. So, for 4 payments, the PV that remains after the first withdrawal and after earning interest is just ##PV_3##, which has already been analyzed. Similarly, 5 payments, after the first withdrawal and interest earned, becomes the 4-payment case, etc., etc.
 

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