International PHP software diploma - worth?

In summary, this person's friend in E. Europe wants to learn programming (PHP/MySQL) at a business college and hopes eventually to come here in work. However, a PHP software diploma from a Macedonian college may not be worth much. This person also advises against starting with PHP due to its popularity.
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A friend of a friend in E. Europe (Macedonia) wants to learn programming (PHP/MySQL) at a business college and hopes eventually to come here in work.

It has been my (possibly highly ignorant) understanding that, as far as Western corporations are concerned, diplomas from European are universally worth little more than the paper they're printed on. i.e. if he hopes to get a job here, he'd better pursue his education here. Generally true? or apocryphal?

This is the school: http://alexandria.com.mk/obuki/php-i-mysql-programer/?lang=en
 
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There are some very good European universities. A PHP software diploma sounds pretty dubious though.
 
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It's not a university. I don't think it's even a college. I guess it's a business school.
And yeah, it's not a diploma; it's a certification.

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DaveC426913 said:
It's not a university. I don't think it's even a college. I guess it's a business school.
And yeah, it's not a diploma; it's a certification.
The certification likely doesn't account for much, but if he's skilled, then it shouldn't matter.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
...if he's skilled, then it shouldn't matter.
This is kind of what I was thinking. He'd need to get a few years of experience under his belt, and go on that strength, rather than on any education cred.

Of course, I still don't know whether the course itself will teach him what he needs to be a competent, competitive PHP programmer.
 
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Of course, I still don't know whether the course itself will teach him what he needs to be a competent, competitive PHP programmer.
Does he have any other programming experience? I'd say it's a mistake to start with PHP.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Does he have any other programming experience? I'd say it's a mistake to start with PHP.
It would seem no. He's only 18.
 
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The course prepares to pass the Zend PHP 5.3 Certification exam leading to Zend Certified Engineer (ZCE) certificate, which I am a holder of since three years. ZCE is conferred by Zend Technologies, not the Macedonian college. I believe it is recognized by some employers, but its significance is low compared to actual commercial experience. It may be useful in getting the first junior developer job.

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I'd say it's a mistake to start with PHP.
PHP has gone a long way in the last few years. Lots of good code is written in it nowadays...
 
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I'd stay away from the business school and get a real computer science degree.
 
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I have reviewed many, many applications for a software development job. If one would not list a relevant degree (CS, math or some natural science or engineering), it would need to have something EXTRAORDINARY to make it to the next stage. A "certification" would not count as such.

So my advice is: do not waste time and money on this.
 
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I don't think that the main "entry" in an application should mention a programming language, unless it is something like "Created C++."
PHP is the kind of token to appear in a listing, as Java, C, Flash, JS, SQL, and so on.

Confirming what voko said from experience, I have never seen a good job opening without requirement of at least a technical degree.
 

1. What is an International PHP software diploma and is it worth it?

An International PHP software diploma is a certification program that teaches individuals how to use PHP, a programming language commonly used for creating web applications. It covers topics such as syntax, data types, control structures, and more. Whether or not it is worth it depends on an individual's career goals and how they plan to use their knowledge of PHP.

2. How long does it take to complete the International PHP software diploma?

The length of the program can vary depending on the institution offering it, but on average, it takes about 6-12 months to complete. This can also depend on the individual's pace and dedication to the program.

3. What are the benefits of obtaining an International PHP software diploma?

There are several benefits to obtaining this diploma. It can enhance your resume and make you more marketable to potential employers, as PHP is a widely used programming language in the tech industry. It can also increase your earning potential and open up new job opportunities.

4. Is there a demand for professionals with an International PHP software diploma?

Yes, there is a high demand for professionals with knowledge and skills in PHP. Many companies use PHP for their web development needs, and there is a shortage of qualified professionals to fill these roles.

5. Can I take the International PHP software diploma online?

Yes, there are online programs available for the International PHP software diploma. However, it is important to research the institution and program to ensure it is accredited and reputable. Online programs may also offer more flexibility for individuals who are working or have other commitments.

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