Invasive surgery avoided through teleportation or matter-to-energy conversion?

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The discussion explores the theoretical possibility of non-invasive medical procedures through concepts like teleportation, matter-to-energy conversion, and the use of gravity waves. Participants consider the implications of these ideas for future medical technology and the challenges associated with them.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a device could allow an organ to pass through the skin unharmed, referencing gravity waves and their potential application in matter-to-energy conversion.
  • Another participant asserts that while some particles like neutrinos can pass through skin unchanged, solid matter cannot do so.
  • A different viewpoint suggests the idea of liquefying a section of the body and excreting it, although this does not align with matter-to-energy conversion.
  • Concerns are raised about the dangers of converting a tumor to energy, with one participant highlighting the potential catastrophic consequences of such a process based on the mass-energy equivalence principle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of non-invasive procedures through advanced technologies, with no consensus reached on the viability of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the speculative nature of their ideas, with some concepts relying on theoretical physics that may not be practically applicable. The discussion includes references to fictional works, which some participants caution against taking as realistic possibilities.

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Let me begin by saying that I know very little about physics.

Here is what I would like to know.

Imagine a scenario where medical procedures were once "invasive" due to cutting, specifically the retrieval of something from the body. But in the future, these retrievals would be rendered less invasive because surgeons could now use some device that would allow the organ/body part to somehow pass through the skin unharmed.

I am familiar with "Star Trek", but it seems that teleportation is not believable, it is pure fiction. I am looking for a believable method of doing this. I read a little about "gravity waves", that they can pass through things unchanged, but I don't understand their application to the conversion of matter to energy in this situation.

Could an organ be converted to a gravity wave, pass through skin, and then be usuable?

In Greg Iles "Footprints of God", the brain was scanned with an MRI and was uploaded to a computer, and essentially the computer became the person. I am concerned about relying upon replication or cloning technology, it leaves too much room for error.

Could anything in the universe, even in theory, allow something to pass through the skin unchanged? Could a solid matter to energy conversion take place to allow an organ to pass through the skin, to then be converted back? What kind of device could make this happen?

I appreciate any help.
 
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azjost said:
Let me begin by saying that I know very little about physics.

Here is what I would like to know.

Imagine a scenario where medical procedures were once "invasive" due to cutting, specifically the retrieval of something from the body. But in the future, these retrievals would be rendered less invasive because surgeons could now use some device that would allow the organ/body part to somehow pass through the skin unharmed.

I am familiar with "Star Trek", but it seems that teleportation is not believable, it is pure fiction. I am looking for a believable method of doing this. I read a little about "gravity waves", that they can pass through things unchanged, but I don't understand their application to the conversion of matter to energy in this situation.

Could an organ be converted to a gravity wave, pass through skin, and then be usuable?

No.

In Greg Iles "Footprints of God", the brain was scanned with an MRI and was uploaded to a computer, and essentially the computer became the person. I am concerned about relying upon replication or cloning technology, it leaves too much room for error.

You realize, of course, that that book is a work of fiction.

Could anything in the universe, even in theory, allow something to pass through the skin unchanged? Could a solid matter to energy conversion take place to allow an organ to pass through the skin, to then be converted back? What kind of device could make this happen?

Allow "something" to pass through the skin? Well, it depends on the "something." Certainly, many neutrino are passing through your skin right "unchanged." Same goes for a lot of different kinds of radiation for the most part.

But, solid matter, no.
 
It is interesting to think of liquifying a section of the body and then excreting the waste liquid as if it was nothing, especially cancers. This would probably involve the typical "introduce some poison, then activate the poison at the right location with some well-placed laser signaling." These would not be organs, necessarily, but you get the idea.

- Bryan

Edit- but this is not matter-to-energy conversion, woops. There are also some other interesting ideas that are possible, like the idea of encoding matter into a signal itself when it reaches ultracold temperatures, but don't ask me about this quite yet ;)
 
As with any medical research, the attempt to do something of this nature bears some possibility (in this case, a huge one) of killing the patient in a gruesome manner. If you could convert a tumour to energy, you'd be looking at an explosion of something between a couple of kilotons and a couple of dozen gigatons of 'ka-boom!'. (e+mc^2, and all that; 25,000,000 kilowatt/hours per gram of matter.)
 

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