IQ Limit: Is There a Ceiling to Human Intelligence?

[Kinn Sein]

Eeh, do they really?
1. Japan is at the forefront of technological development, and has been so for decades.
2. Many other Asian countries have been plagued by a type of Communism that has been obstructive of industrialization and technology development.
3. There is going on a huge brain drain to the West, in that top-notch Asian scientists are being offered far better working conditions in the West than their native countries are able/willing to afford.

Why? Do you think Japan is ahead of the United States in technology? I don't think so. Almost 75% or 80% of technological revolutions were born in the United States. But, Japanese are experts in applying technology efficiently and managing technology.

 

[rkkane]

75% to 80% of technical revolutions from a country a few hundred years old?
Obviosuly until that time the rest of the world was still puzzling over how to make fire.

i would like to see where you get your figures apart from your own warped imagination.

 

[arildno]

Since Kinn Sein evidently believes the production of a BigMac is a technological revolution, he is obviously correct in his assertion.

 

[SqrachMasda]

if somebody had an absurdly high IQ but had zero education available to them how would they know
is there a difference between memory and IQ?
basically is there a version of IQ test that could test a person's potential?

i think it's safe to say there are probably some very smart people but they never had any information presented to them
i've come across a lot of intelligent people
most of them are arrogant people who try and practice to be smart
but some are just really smart who don't feel the need to express it

i notice the majority are on here
you can see after somebody ask a question
if they start the reply with something that belittles the person (..okay this is so easy etc.)
they are probably fake smart people

i'm sure intelligent people come from all races
enviroment probably dictates if they will be known

i saw this in here
"Blacks: God like athletes
Jews: Masters of Vocab skills and of course buisness
Asians: Masters of math science and especially technology
Whites: Jack of all trades with slightly better verbal than visuospatial"

i also (ironically) used stereotypes in coming to the conclusion being racist is dumb
you should probably combine all the races
if asians are math geniuses maybe it's because there are so many and since they say incest gives you dumb offspring maybe it means close family blood ties and therefor they have the least chance because there are so many
where as midwestern americans who are seen as complete dumbasses live in small low populated towns so even if they think they are reproducing outside of the family, the chances their blood will have common aspects is much higher
so, reproduce with another race. it seems like the fool proof way to avoid low intelligent offspring
haha, i don't know but it seems quite logical
asian people also seem to have a complex language
that's why when i have children i'd like to hire at least 10 different language speaking people to just sit around and talk to my child all day from birth until they start speaking fluent everything

life time is in logarithms, that first year or 2 is forever
i wish i was taught advanced mathematics when i was 2

 

[JazzCrimes]

Hello everyone, I'm new to these forums, and I doubt I'm the same age as all of you (15) but I just thorght I would just raise my point of view...although you will proberly slander it...

I don't think IQ in possible to determine in this day and age, because so many factors contribute to the development of a persons "IQ" over a lifespan and it is mentally impossible for anyone to take into account all these factors.

There are so many different types and sub-genres of human conciousness, I.e. Social, Acidemical, Memory, physical perception, logic..the list goes on, all of which are unique to the user of that inteligence, for example, you have all been subjected to the same question "Is there a limit to IQ" and using logic, you have all come up with different and unique answers hence a discussion takes place...
These sub-genres of sociaty cannot simply be grouped into one huge group called "IQ".

 

[backdoorstudent]

I'm sure that reading this thread has lowered my IQ.

 

[SimplePie]

I'm sure that reading this thread has lowered my IQ.

Don't worry. It is negated by the increase in IQ you experienced by signing up to this forum :)

 

[Chaos' lil bro Order]

Funny how one mentions the words 'IQ' or 'Genius' and instantly you get a wide readership and response. We love to attach ourselves to words that elevate ourselves with respect to others don't we?


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[SimplePie]

Funny how one mentions the words 'IQ' or 'Genius' and instantly you get a wide readership and response. We love to attach ourselves to words that elevate ourselves with respect to others don't we?

I think the "wide readership and response" also has to do with the controversial nature (or is it nurture) of the topic. Then again, some people just want an excuse to type. hjsdfg uiwetrn khsd :)

Powerfull. Sexiest. Revelation. IQ. King. Genius. Wunderkind. Queen. Guru.

Sounds like we just got great new descriptions to cast member votes on :)

 

[freethinker]

I hate to be a party pooper, but anyone who is generally interested in the concept of IQ and its usefulness should probably check out Stephen Jay Gould's book The Mismeasure of Man. His treatment of intelligence testing and its social applications is (in my opinion) excellent. He does a very good job at debunking some myths and exposing a lot of (probably fallacious) assumptions that made about the nature of intelligence. One of the major assumptions that he calls into question is that intelligence is an innate, heritable quality that can be accurately ranked using a single number. He also talks about comparing the mean IQs of different groups and how it is improper to assume that just because IQ may be (weakly) heritable that differences in groups are due to genetic/biological factors (the differences in group means can easily be attributed to sociocultural factors). Check it out.

As far as the original question goes, Gould's answer would probably be that scores at that end of the spectrum are relatively meaningless anyway: the tests were developed to identify underperforming students in the French public school system who needed extra help, not to rank differing levels of genius.