Is anyone baffled by the thought of their own death?

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The discussion revolves around the contemplation of death and its implications on consciousness and existence. Participants explore their feelings about mortality, the nature of life, and the philosophical questions surrounding the end of consciousness. The conversation includes personal reflections, philosophical inquiries, and varying perspectives on the inevitability of death.

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  • Some participants express feelings of bafflement regarding their own death and the finality of consciousness, finding it difficult to imagine life ceasing entirely.
  • Others argue that death is a natural part of the life cycle and suggest that the significance of individual existence may be diminished in the vastness of the universe.
  • Several participants reflect on the idea that death could be viewed as a release or a transition, with some suggesting that the elderly may become more accepting of death over time.
  • There are discussions about the cyclical nature of life and how the atoms in one's body will continue to exist in other forms after death.
  • Some participants raise philosophical questions about the nature of consciousness, comparing the mystery of death to the mystery of birth and existence itself.
  • There is a suggestion that the fear of death may stem from the belief that consciousness is tied to physical processes in the brain, which cease at death.
  • One participant notes that the positives of life can outweigh the negatives associated with the concept of death, while acknowledging the tragedy of losing everything built during one's lifetime.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some finding the idea of death baffling and others accepting it as a natural conclusion to life. There is no consensus on the nature of consciousness or what happens after death, indicating multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference studies about the elderly and their attitudes toward death, but these claims are not universally accepted. The discussion includes various assumptions about consciousness and its relationship to physical processes, which remain unresolved.

  • #61
After nearly being obliterated by a meteorite I am infected with alien fungal spores. I spend weeks quarantined in a medical facility being examined by doctors, who discover the only remedy is to consume radioactive material. I will be the only man in the world prescribed plutonium for medicinal purposes. I get a job at a nuclear waste disposal facility until I am abducted by terrorists demanding I give them plutonium. I die of an anyerism while sitting on the toilet wondering if I should fold or scrunch.
 
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  • #62
Huckleberry said:
After nearly being obliterated by a meteorite I am infected with alien fungal spores. I spend weeks quarantined in a medical facility being examined by doctors, who discover the only remedy is to consume radioactive material. I will be the only man in the world prescribed plutonium for medicinal purposes. I get a job at a nuclear waste disposal facility until I am abducted by terrorists demanding I give them plutonium. I die of an anyerism while sitting on the toilet wondering if I should fold or scrunch.

Lawl.

Seriously, I do believe there may be SOMETHING after death, what that is we have no way of knowing. I believe that our consciousness and personal realities far transcend our physical bodies and brains.
 
  • #63
KooCmstr said:
Lawl.

Seriously, I do believe there may be SOMETHING after death, what that is we have no way of knowing. I believe that our consciousness and personal realities far transcend our physical bodies and brains.

You can believe in anything really.

Hell, I can believe there is a big spaghetti monster up in the sky who urinates to make it rain. Doesn't exactly make it true. Just because a lot of people think something is real, doesn't mean it is; for example thousands of people claim to have seen UFOs (extraterrestrials), and thousands of people also don't believe that the Holocaust happened.

I hope you get the point I'm trying to convey, but back to the topic question... I personally am not baffled by the thought of my own death because I am unafraid to die. I have nothing to lose and nothing can mess with me.

Maybe it's because of the nerves of steel I've developed combined with the death which has plagued my family in recent years..

Someone asked the question "what is life" or something like that. I didn't bother to quote it however My response to that is life is being able to think or being able to move. I'm assuming someone will ask something like when someone stops breathing but their brain is still working, and provide my pre-emptive response of if it is working, then it is moving slightly.

As for the best way to die for me it would be any way that didn't involve pain.

--Remember any day is a good day to die. No day is a good day to throw your life away.-- (I have no idea who said that, but i think it is a pretty wise statement)
 
  • #65
easyrider said:
Looks like science is getting fairly close to proving NDEs/OOBEs are made by the brain. I don't know about yall but I've believed there wasnt a soul all along.

The concept of a "soul" is a remnant of earlier times, when humans had not yet understood the various organs and systems within the body. When someone died, it really did appear to them that something had "left" the body, as the reason for someone to suddenly stop moving wasn't easily explained any other way. Sure people knew that if you crushed someones head with a rock, that the person would stop moving, perhaps forever. But they still didn't know WHY that happened, or what processes within the body were at fault.

Today, belief in a "soul" is just another religious belief that continues to defy rationality and logical thinking.
 
  • #66
As long as you can keep the brain alive, you remain 'alive' correct? You may not be able to communicate, interact or even post on PF. Your body will decompose and be returned to mere particles.

Give it 100 years and our grandchildren will be nothing more than floating heads in a jar, hopefully by then scientists will have constructed some method of communication that does not require a physical presence.

(Think telepathy)

If the mind were to be able to communicate via telepathy, we would achieve everlasting life. We could communicate with others, move objects and complete daily tasks via telepathic commands to an artificial body.

The human body is nothing more than a tool our minds use to communicate and transport goods with. The heart is nothing more than a pump that sends nutrients and oxygen to unneeded extremities (if telepathy were available).

The brain degrades of course... and everlasting life only lasts as long as the tissues in the brain can be maintained. But who's to say we can't dunk our brains in a tank of preservatives. =)

I keep getting the image of that super villain who has the brain attached to the top of a gorillas body. lol... we'll be nothing more than a parasite looking for hosts!

/discuss
 
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