Is Apple Really Richer Than the US Government?

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of Apple's cash reserves to those of the US government, exploring implications for the economy, particularly in the context of the UK. Participants express concerns about economic stability, corporate cash hoarding, and potential repercussions of US economic policies on other countries.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern that Apple's cash reserves exceeding those of the US government reflects broader economic issues, particularly regarding corporate cash hoarding and its impact on economic growth.
  • Others argue that the comparison between Apple and the US government is irrelevant, emphasizing that the real issue is the amount of cash businesses are holding instead of reinvesting in the economy.
  • A participant mentions the UK's economic situation, providing figures on its economy, deficit, and debt, and suggests that businesses hoarding cash may be a defensive strategy against potential economic downturns.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the likelihood of a last-minute economic resolution, citing political dynamics in the US.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of Apple's cash reserves compared to the US government. There are differing views on the relevance of this comparison and the potential consequences for the economy.

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Participants reference various economic figures and conditions without providing comprehensive context or definitions, leaving some assumptions and implications unresolved.

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Apparently Apple now has more reserve cash than the US government
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470

This is getting a bit ridiculous, I'm not American so I can't comment well on opinion or politics in the US but here in the UK people are quite worried that this irresponsible ideological chicken is going to have huge effects on our economy. Considering we are having to undergo very unpopular and harsh budget cuts people are worried that economic problems in the US could send the UK into a further, unaffordable recession.

Is there going to be a last minute save or has the culture gap royally screwed US and other countries economies?
 
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For comparison - how much cash does the UK have on hand? (not trying to be snarky - but just trying to put it in perspective, I honestly don't know how much other countries keep on hand)

I think the scarier part isn't that Apple has more cash than the US government (which seems a poor, irrelevant comparison) - it's that it has that much cash on hand period. Right now is not a good time for businesses in the US, so businesses that are making money aren't reinvesting as much as they could. They're sitting on their cash - the article indicates a possible buy out incoming, but that doesn't really do much to grow the economy. The business that they'd buy is already established - there's no real wealth creation happening there (unless Jobs uses his money in whatever they buy to grow it - but if it's BN or Netflix, I don't see them turning around those company's shrinkage). IMO that type of consolodation may only be bad for the market in general.
 
I honestly don't know about the UK. I know that our economy contains ~$2.3 trillion, our deficit is ~$150 billion per annum and our debt has reached ~$775 billion.

I'm not an expert but businesses hoarding their money could be a way of trying to survive an oncoming economic catastrophe. The danger of that is of course it hastens the problem.
 
ryan_m_b said:
Apparently Apple now has more reserve cash than the US government
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470

This is getting a bit ridiculous, I'm not American so I can't comment well on opinion or politics in the US but here in the UK people are quite worried that this irresponsible ideological chicken is going to have huge effects on our economy. Considering we are having to undergo very unpopular and harsh budget cuts people are worried that economic problems in the US could send the UK into a further, unaffordable recession.

Is there going to be a last minute save or has the culture gap royally screwed US and other countries economies?

There will be a last minute save. The tea party has dug itself a grave.

Course then, I never believed this country could elect someone like Bush, so what do I know.
 

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