Is Cheating Justifiable in Unfair Academic Environments?

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The discussion revolves around the ethical implications of cheating in academic environments perceived as unfair. Participants explore various scenarios where cheating may seem justified due to systemic issues, such as peer behavior, grading practices, and future consequences related to employment and military service.

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Main Points Raised

  • Amir presents a series of challenging circumstances that may lead students to consider cheating, including peer pressure and the impact on academic and professional futures.
  • Some participants argue that cheating is fundamentally wrong, emphasizing the moral implications and the long-term consequences of lacking genuine knowledge.
  • Others suggest that if cheating is widespread, it may lessen the ethical burden, although they still acknowledge the importance of actually understanding the material.
  • One participant proposes a proactive approach to addressing systemic cheating by collecting evidence and reporting it to authorities, suggesting that accountability could lead to change.
  • Another participant reiterates that cheating is inexcusable, regardless of the circumstances, and emphasizes the importance of personal integrity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the justifiability of cheating, with no consensus reached. Some believe that cheating can be justified under certain conditions, while others maintain that it is always wrong.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights various assumptions about academic integrity, the role of systemic issues in influencing behavior, and the potential consequences of cheating on future opportunities.

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Hello,
My name is Amir and from Iran. I see guys who said that cheating isn't moral. I want to know how they behave in the flowing situation:
1- All your colleges and classmate cheating! (And professors as well)
2- If you don't cheat you fail because the professor give mark based on other exam! (I don't cheat and my bachelor degree get 6 years long and not yet finish)
3- If you don't cheat you can't done all assignment!
4- If you don't cheat your GPA go down (Like me 13.4/20 when I start University my GPA is better!) (And applying for another country depend on that)
5- If you go out the university if male you must go to military service up to 24 month!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service
6- If you don't get degree (and it isn't important what is you major!) you can't get job; and establish a businesses isn't easy! (see Iran below)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ease_of_doing_business_index

So I honestly ask what is your behavior I this situation? What is your advise for peoples like me?
 
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Cheating is wrong. It is wrong to others (it is pretending that you have achieved something that in fact you have not done) and it is wrong to yourself (it is fooling yourself into thinking you know something that you do not know). If you cheat in school, it becomes a way of life, and you will be inclined to cheat throughout life. You become simply a fraud.

Today, in many places, cheating seems to be accepted. Well, nothing is new. Evil has been around for a very long time and will likely continue. Do you want to have an evil life?
 
I discourage cheating mainly because it is just cheating yourself. Sure, if you cheat then you can pass exams easily, but you don't obtain the actual knowledge. And later in life you will need this knowledge and experience. If you cheated your way through life, then you will struggle a lot later on.

Cheating is of course also wrong to others. But under the condition that everybody cheats, I don't have much problems with it. Just make sure that you actually know the material (and really, if you know the material, you probably don't have to cheat anyway).
 
Your post basically is a list of advantages you think cheating will give you. I guess you have to ask yourself what kind of person you are.
 
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firouzyan said:
So I honestly ask what is your behavior I this situation? What is your advise for peoples like me?

I would collect evidence then report, report and report.
If your dean doesn't listen talk to someone in the media, write a piece for your university magazine, or write to the engineering regulatory body in your country - I'm sure your school will take notice if their accreditation is at stake.
Surely your university would have to respond to a systemic cheating scandal that involves professors?

As for your Facebook page, I think something has been lost in translation. It makes no sense to me, I assume it's satire but if I didn't know better it appears you're sharing cheating software. Either way the English, and the message is poor.
 
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firouzyan said:
Hello,
My name is Amir and from Iran. I see guys who said that cheating isn't moral. I want to know how they behave in the flowing situation:
1- All your colleges and classmate cheating! (And professors as well)
2- If you don't cheat you fail because the professor give mark based on other exam! (I don't cheat and my bachelor degree get 6 years long and not yet finish)
3- If you don't cheat you can't done all assignment!
4- If you don't cheat your GPA go down (Like me 13.4/20 when I start University my GPA is better!) (And applying for another country depend on that)
5- If you go out the university if male you must go to military service up to 24 month!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service
6- If you don't get degree (and it isn't important what is you major!) you can't get job; and establish a businesses isn't easy! (see Iran below)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ease_of_doing_business_index

So I honestly ask what is your behavior I this situation? What is your advise for peoples like me?
Cheating is always wrong, there is no excuse. Just because others cheat is no excuse. Other people you encounter in life will always cheat, it doesn't stop in school. you need to be better than them or lower yourself to their level. Here, we don't allow cheating.
 
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