Is Einstein's Use of God and Questionable Quotes Justifiable?

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The discussion revolves around the justification of Einstein's use of God in his quotes, particularly "God does not play dice," which some participants find problematic. Critics argue that incorporating God into scientific discourse is inappropriate and undermines the objective nature of scientific inquiry. Supporters defend Einstein, emphasizing that his quotes often reflect his wit and philosophical beliefs rather than literal assumptions about divinity. The conversation also touches on the impact of Einstein's ideas on the development of quantum mechanics and the importance of questioning established theories. Ultimately, the debate highlights the tension between personal beliefs and scientific rigor in the legacy of influential figures like Einstein.
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Other people have made that same point in this thread (Spinoza) and it makes sense to me.

I am certain, however, that a term like "Der Alte" has a very specific meaning and useage that would prevent it from being synonymous with "God" in all contexts. As long as Einstein seems to have been claiming knowledge of "God's" modus operandi, Paden Roder will be in discomfort. If we can discover that "Der Alte" was really merely "Natura Creatans" Paden Roder may be able to wipe this irritating bit of tarnish off his Einstein shrine.
 
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Originally posted by PRodQuanta
Ok, first off Chi Meson, let me use an analogy to explain what I mean by "what gave him the right".

Chi Meson is a great baseball player.

Now, what gives me the right to say that? Do I know you? No! For all I know, you may be, so my statement is half true. But yet, it's half false. And because I don't know, I have no right to assume.

Now I'm not a very religious man, but even if I was or wasn't, it wouldn't make a difference. I KNOW Einstein didn't know God, so he had no right to say what he does or thinks or whatever in whatever language he says it in. Opinion? Maybe, but that wasn't my statement in the first place.

Paden Roder

Perhaps you are confusing me with the author of another response. I do not deny you the right to question anything. Nor would I deny anyone the right to state their opinion of the nature of the universe. Why do you?


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oh, and I'm horrible at baseball. I was a great golie in soccer once.
 
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Sorry chi meson, I did intend that post towards another poster. It was directed towards The_Brain. My apologies.

Paden Roder
 
  • #34
Originally posted by PRodQuanta
Thoughts??
Yes, two.

First thought - according to The Expanded Quotable Einstein the quote/saying When the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts is often attributed to Einstein but is probably not by Einstein. Second thought - this quote by Einstein: The truth of a theory can never be proven, for one never knows if future experience will contradict its conclusions.
 

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