Is dark energy or dark matter created to keep the Cosmological constant

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the cosmological constant, its implications for the expansion of the universe, and the relationship between dark energy and dark matter. Participants explore theoretical aspects, potential variations of the cosmological constant, and the implications of these concepts in cosmology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the cosmological constant has a positive value and is associated with the accelerated expansion of the universe, questioning what this means for newly created space.
  • One participant argues that while space expands uniformly, the cosmological constant itself could theoretically vary over time, although no evidence for such variation has been found.
  • Another participant suggests that as the universe expands, the energy density associated with dark energy remains constant, leading to an increase in total vacuum energy and potentially accelerating expansion.
  • There is a viewpoint that dark energy and dark matter are distinct phenomena, with dark energy driving the accelerated expansion and dark matter influencing galaxy formation.
  • A reference to a paper by Bianchi and Rovelli discusses the challenges of reconciling quantum field theory predictions of vacuum energy with the observed value of the cosmological constant, highlighting a significant discrepancy.
  • A related question is raised about the behavior of the Hubble constant during inflation and its implications for the cosmological constant's role in the early universe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of the cosmological constant, the relationship between dark energy and dark matter, and the implications of these concepts for the universe's expansion. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various unknowns and complexities surrounding the cosmological constant, including potential variations over time and the theoretical implications of quantum field theory on vacuum energy. The discussion reflects ongoing uncertainties in cosmological models.

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A positive value for the cosmological constant was found by the studies of Adam G. Riess et al and Pearlmutter et al
In terms of Planck units, and as a natural dimensionless value, the cosmological constant, λ, is on the order of 10−122 or 10−29 g/cm3
The cosmological constant has negative pressure equal to its energy density and so causes the expansion of the universe to accelerate.
The universe is accelerating and space is expanding
Does it mean that new space is being created and if so what is the cosmological constant in the new space or expanded space
If suppose an area of space has a cosmological constant value of 10−29 g/cm3 then if it expands what will be the value of consmological constant as the word itself says it is constant
Is dark energy or dark matte created to keep this constant
 
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Does it mean that new space is being created and if so what is the cosmological constant in the new space or expanded space
You cannot point to anything in space and say "this space is new". Everything expands with the same rate (ignoring some local collections of matter). The cosmological constant itself could vary with time, but no variation has been found yet.
 
Hi arun...lots of unknowns remain to be discovered...

If suppose an area of space has a cosmological constant value of 10−29 g/cm3 then if it expands what will be the value of consmological constant as the word itself says it is constant
Is dark energy or dark matte created to keep this constant

The energy density is believed to remain constant with the metric expansion of the cosmos. So as the universe expands, the total vacuum energy increases and its repulsive nature causes space to expand even faster…in a run away exponential expansion. In the big bang model, dark energy [the cosmological constant] powers an accelerated expansion after about 7 or 8B years as it overpowers the gravitational attraction of matter. We are already moving from a 'matter dominated' to an 'energy dominated' epoch. Dark matter dominated the past; dark energy will dominate the future.

I get the sense 'dark energy' may be less popular now than in the recent past...at least by some in these forums... and that perhaps it is just a feature of curved space time that leads to some gravitational repulsion at vast distances...

Dark matter and dark energy are so far two distinct and virtually unrelated 'unknowns'... which is what 'dark' means. We infer the existence of dark matter by its gravitational effects; We infer the existence of dark energy by the accelerated expansion of space...dark matter seems to aid the formation of galaxies a bit; dark energy may slow formation a bit.

Here is what Bianchi and Rovelli have to say about the cosmological constant...dark energy...vacuum energy...call it what you want...

Why all these prejudices against a constant?
Eugenio Bianchi, Carlo Rovelli
(Dated: April 13, 2010)

IV. THE VACUUM ENERGY IN QUANTUM FIELD THEORY
...Finally, let us come to the argument that many considered the strongest against the cosmological constant scenario: the quartic divergence of the vacuum energy density in quantum feld theory (QFT). To begin with, here is a naive version of the argument: a formal quantization of a field theory leads to a divergent energy for the vacuum state. If we assume that divergences are controlled by a physical cut-off, say at the Planck scale, {an ultra-violet cutoff?} then the theory predicts a Planck-scale vacuum energy. This behaves like an effective cosmological constant. Therefore one can say that QFT predicts the existence of a cosmological constant. However, the predicted cosmological constant has a value which is about 120 orders of magnitude larger that the observed one. Thus, the cosmological constant is predicted by particle physics, but the prediction is quantitatively wrong by 120 orders of magnitude (The worst theoretical prediction in the history of physics")
 
Hubble Constant at end of inflation

I have a related question. If we wind the FRW equations back from the time of matter-radiation equality (z~3300), ignoring matter and Lambda densities (they were small before that) to the end of inflation, I get order of magnitude:
<br /> H(t) \approx H_0\sqrt{\frac{\Omega_{rad}}{a^4}} \approx 10^{56} H_0<br />
I used for end of inflation: a \approx 10^{-28} and \Omega_{rad} = \Omega_m/z_{eq}\approx 10^{-4}, the present value.

Would that H(t) be roughly the constant H (and related Hubble radius) during inflation? This would mean that the cosmological constant must 'jump' into domination around that point (running time backwards), swamping any radiation density.
 
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