Is Dirac's Principles of Quantum Mechanics a good way to learn?

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The discussion centers on the relevance and suitability of Dirac's Principles of Quantum Mechanics as a resource for learning quantum mechanics, particularly for those unable to take a formal introductory course. Participants explore the mathematical prerequisites and suggest alternative texts for beginners.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express curiosity about the relevance of Dirac's book, noting its age and questioning if it is a suitable starting point for learning quantum mechanics.
  • One participant suggests that Dirac's book is more of a monograph and recommends starting with more elementary texts before progressing to advanced materials.
  • Several alternative textbooks are proposed for beginners, including David Griffiths' Introduction to Quantum Mechanics and John Slater's Quantum Theory of Atomic Structure, with varying opinions on their effectiveness.
  • Another participant mentions that using the textbook from the class one cannot fit into their schedule could be beneficial for future understanding and assistance.
  • Some participants agree that while Dirac's book is valuable, it may not be the best first choice for learning quantum mechanics.
  • JJ Sakurai's Modern Quantum Mechanics is suggested as an appealing alternative, along with Feynman Lectures and David Bohm's book for historical context.
  • A participant humorously suggests watching a movie related to Dirac's lectures instead of reading the book, highlighting the perceived value of the lecture content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Dirac's book is significant but not ideal for beginners. Multiple competing views exist regarding the best starting resources for learning quantum mechanics, and the discussion remains unresolved on which texts are definitively superior.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various mathematical prerequisites, including calculus III, linear algebra, and differential equations, but do not reach a consensus on their sufficiency for understanding Dirac's work or quantum mechanics in general.

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I have heard about its significance to science and my university's library has a few copies but I also notice it's a rather old book so I'm wondering whether or not it is still relevant. If I wanted to learn about quantum mechanics is that a good place to start? The reason I ask is because I am very curious about it but I don't have room in my schedule either this or next semester to fit the intro to quantum physics class in.

Also, regarding the maths involved, will the things I've learned in calculus III, elementary linear algebra, and differential equations be enough? Those, along with University Physics 1 and 2, are listed as the prerequisites for the intro to QM course on my school's website.
 
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If I wanted to learn about quantum mechanics is that a good place to start?
Dirac's book is a slightly arcane monograph rather than a textbook. If you want to study the basics of quantum theory, my advice is to start with more elementary books and then as questions arise, search answers in others, more advanced books.

There is no one single very good book on the subject, different people like different books and all have some serious omissions or other flaws. That makes it important to read as much different sources as you can.

For intro, these are nice (easy to go through):

David Griffiths: Introduction to Quantum Mechanics
John Slater: Quantum theory of atomic structure
- this is the best book on the basic wave mechanics, in my opinion.

More advanced:

David Bohm: Quantum theory
- from the Copenhagen viewpoint

Ballentine: Quantum mechanics - a modern development
Steven Weinberg: Lectures on Quantum Mechanics
- more modern books

.. and plenty more.
 
jack476 said:
I have heard about its significance to science and my university's library has a few copies but I also notice it's a rather old book so I'm wondering whether or not it is still relevant. If I wanted to learn about quantum mechanics is that a good place to start? The reason I ask is because I am very curious about it but I don't have room in my schedule either this or next semester to fit the intro to quantum physics class in.

Also, regarding the maths involved, will the things I've learned in calculus III, elementary linear algebra, and differential equations be enough? Those, along with University Physics 1 and 2, are listed as the prerequisites for the intro to QM course on my school's website.

If you're at a university but just don't have time to schedule the class, there's a lot to be said for the answer that's under your nose: Use the textbook that the class you can't fit in uses. It'll be easier to get help, and if you can fit the class into some later semester, you'll be far ahead of the game.
 
Dirac's book is a worthy read, but I don't think it should be the first thing you read about QM
 
dauto said:
Dirac's book is a worthy read, but I don't think it should be the first thing you read about QM

Indeed not.

I leaned proper QM from Dirac's book and Von Neumann's. But having been through that I would not recommend it - to start with Griffiths is much better (if a bit expensive) then Ballentine for the best treatment.

Along the way to get to grips with interpretation issues I like Hughs:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0674843924/?tag=pfamazon01-20

After going through those three books in the order Griffiths, Hughs then Ballentine you will have a very good understanding of QM and, IMHO, that is the time to undertake Dirac.

Thanks
Bill
 
somehow JJ Sakurai Modern quantum mechanics appeals well to me!, may be you should try it. Good introduction about history and development is presented in Feynman lectures and David Bohm`s book
 
jack476 said:
I have heard about its significance to science and my university's library has a few copies but I also notice it's a rather old book so I'm wondering whether or not it is still relevant...

Why read the book when you can watch the movie. The quality of the information in Dirac's lecture makes up for the poor quality of the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwYs8tTLZ24&list=PLjNexov924eRr3L8aCirRyVCRN5rGi29W
 

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