Quantum Field theory vs. many-body Quantum Mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between Quantum Field Theory (QFT) and many-body Quantum Mechanics (QM), exploring whether they are equivalent or distinct frameworks. Participants examine various aspects such as instantons, topological phenomena, quasiparticle excitations, and the implications of particle number conservation, with a focus on theoretical and conceptual considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that QFT can capture instantonic solutions while many-body QM cannot, although instantons have been observed in QM contexts.
  • There is a claim that QFT can fully address topological phenomena, whereas many-body QM may not, despite QM being able to describe certain topological effects like the integer quantum Hall effect.
  • Uncertainty exists regarding whether there is a correspondence between many-body QM and topological field theories.
  • Some participants note that certain QFT systems in condensed matter physics do not allow for quasiparticle excitations, raising questions about their description in many-body QM.
  • Discussion includes the nature of scalar fields in QFT and their representation on different manifolds, with some skepticism about many-body QM's ability to handle complex manifolds.
  • There is a suggestion that the equivalence of QFT and many-body QM may only hold when particle number is conserved, though this remains uncertain in general cases.
  • One participant mentions that one-body QM can be viewed as a (0+1)-dimensional QFT, questioning if a similar analogy can be drawn for many-body QM.
  • Another participant clarifies that nonrelativistic QFT in condensed matter physics involves both fundamental particles and quasiparticles, suggesting that while nonrelativistic QFT of electrons is equivalent to many-body QM, effective field theories may not be.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the equivalence of QFT and many-body QM, with no consensus reached. Some argue for equivalence under specific conditions, while others highlight significant distinctions and limitations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their arguments, including the need for specific references to support claims and the speculative nature of some points raised. The discussion reflects a variety of interpretations and uncertainties regarding the relationship between the two theories.

  • #31
I remember I've read a paper, stating qft inherits traits of the particle formalism. In the sense qft formulation is not superior, than the many-body qm.
 
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  • #32
QFT formulation is superior in all cases, where you have particle creation and destruction processes and equivalent to (many-body) QM if this is not the case.
 
  • #33
vanhees71 said:
QFT formulation is superior in all cases, where you have particle creation and destruction processes and equivalent to (many-body) QM if this is not the case.
I agree, this is what it seems. Nevertheless this is what I've read. I'm actually curious if qft can be the result of the missing information. There is a certain analogy with the ordinary information transfer. Quantum fields look like a superposition of causal sets.
 
  • #34
Fractal matter said:
I agree, this is what it seems. Nevertheless this is what I've read. I'm actually curious if qft can be the result of the missing information. There is a certain analogy with the ordinary information transfer. Quantum fields look like a superposition of causal sets.
Can you give more details on this or provide a reference?
 
  • #35
Joker93 said:
Can you give more details on this or provide a reference?
What exactly are you interested in ? I don't remember the title of the 1st paper. As for the missing information there are quite a few. For example: Quantum States as Ordinary Information - https://www.mdpi.com/2078-2489/5/1/190 I don't know the details, just in general.
 
  • #36
Demystifier said:
Some effects may be described by topological effective field theory, in which case it may not have quasiparticle excitations.
Can you give an example please ? I'm interested in all the cases in which the effective theory doesn't have quasiparticles.
 
  • #37
Fractal matter said:
Can you give an example please ? I'm interested in all the cases in which the effective theory doesn't have quasiparticles.
All topological field theories lack propagating degrees of freedom and hence (quasi)particles. An example of topological field theory is Chern-Simons theory. In condensed matter, it plays a role in a description of quantum Hall effect (see e.g. https://arxiv.org/abs/1606.06687). Roughly speaking, in the quantum Hall effect the EM field interacts with matter in such a way that the effective dressed EM field cannot propagate through the material, so the dressed EM field does not have dressed photon excitations.
 
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