Is freezing point always depressed by a solute?

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The discussion revolves around whether the freezing point is always depressed by a solute, particularly in the context of strong solute-solvent interactions and the behavior of amorphous solids. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications related to phase changes and the nature of solid structures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the freezing point is always depressed by a solute, especially when solute-solvent interactions are stronger than solute-solute and solvent-solvent interactions.
  • Another participant asserts that amorphous solids do not have a freezing point.
  • A subsequent post inquires whether amorphous solids experience changes of state.
  • Another participant responds that changes of state in amorphous solids do not occur at a constant temperature and suggests looking into vitrification.

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Participants express differing views on the behavior of amorphous solids and the conditions under which the freezing point may be depressed by a solute. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of freezing points and phase changes, particularly in relation to amorphous solids and the nature of solute-solvent interactions. The discussion does not clarify these aspects fully.

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Is the freezing point always depressed by a solute even if solute-solvent interactions are stronger than solute-solute and solvent-solvent interaction? What about amorphous solids?

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According to my chemistry teacher's powerpoints, the freezing point is always depressed by the presence of a solute because the solute particles disrupt the lattice structure of the solid.

The Attempt at a Solution


Thus, the solution remains liquid at lower than normal temperatures due to the added difficulty of forming the solid structure. The stronger solute-solvent interactions add to this disorder.

In amorphous solids where there is little/no organized set structure to speak of, I don't know how solute particles would interfere unless the solute forms its own competing structure as a solid. Otherwise, I'm in the dark.
 
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Amorphous solids don't have a freezing point.
 
Do amorphous solids not have changes of state?
 
Not at a constant temperature. Google vitrification.
 

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