Is Handling the Most Over Called Foul in Soccer?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the performance of the US soccer team in a World Cup match against Italy, including the implications of the match results for advancing in the tournament. Participants explore various aspects of the game, including referee decisions, player performances, and potential outcomes based on different scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the US team's chances of winning or tying the match against Italy, suggesting that the Italians may underestimate their opponents.
  • There are differing opinions on the referee's performance, with some arguing that the referee made poor decisions, while others believe the referee was competent and that the cards issued were justified.
  • Participants discuss the implications of the match result for the US team's chances of advancing in the tournament, considering various scenarios based on the outcomes of other matches.
  • There is debate over whether a specific handball incident by an Italian player should have resulted in a penalty kick, with some arguing it was unintentional while others believe it was a deliberate infraction.
  • Some participants highlight the reckless nature of certain fouls, particularly Mastroeni's red card, while others defend the decision as justified due to the dangerous nature of the tackle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the referee's decisions, the performance of the US team, and the potential outcomes of the tournament. No consensus is reached on the effectiveness of the referee or the implications of the match results.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific game events and decisions, but there is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of rules related to handball and the criteria for issuing red cards. The discussion reflects a variety of perspectives on these incidents without resolving the underlying disagreements.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of soccer, analysts interested in match performance, and those following the World Cup may find the discussion relevant for understanding the dynamics of the game and the implications of referee decisions.

  • #31
After speaking to a referee i have been informed that;

If the balls strikes your hand intentionally or unintentionally it is a free kick/penalty.

If the handball is intentional then the fouling player should receive a yellow card. If the player stops a goal by using his hand then the player should receive a red card.
 
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  • #32
Andy said:
If the balls strikes your hand intentionally or unintentionally it is a free kick/penalty.

If the handball is intentional then the fouling player should receive a yellow card. If the player stops a goal by using his hand then the player should receive a red card.

Well:
1. Like any other foul, advantage play is an option.
2. If the hand/arm is against the body (e.g. players in a wall covering up), then it's not a handball.
 
  • #33
If the balls strikes your hand intentionally or unintentionally it is a free kick/penalty.
This is conterary to what I have seen.. If it is accidental, and you are attempting to move your hand out of the way, or your arm is against your body, a foul isn't deemed to have been commited.
 
  • #34
Yeah, just re-checked the rules - it's deliberate handballs.
http://www.fifa.com/en/regulations/regulation/0,1584,3,00.html
 
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  • #35
Why no more new threads?

Is everyone (USA Ppls) sulking here now since u got beat by Ghana? :biggrin: hehe
 
  • #36
Anttech said:
Why no more new threads?

Is everyone (USA Ppls) sulking here now since u got beat by Ghana? :biggrin: hehe

Be fair. The US probably did suffer from an unfortunate draw, although some other teams (the Ivorians come to mind) really have a better claim to that.
 
  • #37
Granted, your group wasnt the easiest, but it wasnt the hardest. But hey this is the world cup.

I applaude you :) (Now get rid of that dumb coach, and perhaps you could do something in 4 years... :biggrin: )
 
  • #38
Anttech said:
Granted, your group wasnt the easiest, but it wasnt the hardest. But hey this is the world cup.

I applaude you :) (Now get rid of that dumb coach, and perhaps you could do something in 4 years... :biggrin: )
The 2010 World Cup is in Africa instead of Europe, so we probably will do something. The USA has never won a World Cup game in Europe (in fact, Brazil is the only team to win a World Cup held outside its own continent - they've won in South America, North America, Europe, and Asia).

Of course, they have to actually qualify first. CONCACAF, Africa, and Asia should definitely lose slots for the next World Cup. Africa might not, since South Africa is hosting.
 
  • #39
The USA has never won a World Cup game in Europe
something to work on I guess...
 
  • #40
Andy said:
After speaking to a referee i have been informed that;

If the balls strikes your hand intentionally or unintentionally it is a free kick/penalty.

If the handball is intentional then the fouling player should receive a yellow card. If the player stops a goal by using his hand then the player should receive a red card.
How that particular referee calls handling or the official version, as stated in the laws? (There's a difference - the laws state the game ends when 90 minutes have been played, but notice how that 90 minutes is never reached in the middle of a shot). The handling has to be intentional. Having a ball strike your hand or arm unintentionally isn't a foul.

That said, traditionally, handling has been the most over called foul in soccer. It's easier for the referee to call a foul that everyone can see than to decide the handling was unintentional. In the US, quite a few referee clinics mention this yearly, even if it's usually not the highlighted lesson of the year. Looking at this World Cup, referees world wide are starting to accept to more responsibility for making a decision rather than just making the easy call. (They're also finally respecting the idea that questionable offside decisions should go to the attacker rather than the defender - something else FIFA has pushed for years before finally being accepted).