Is Implicit Function Theorem Useful in Optimal Control Theory?

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The discussion explores the concept of implicit functions, particularly in the context of the Implicit Function Theorem and its relevance to optimal control theory. Participants examine the nature of implicit functions, their definitions, and the conditions under which they can be applied.

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  • One participant requests clarification on the definition of an implicit function and questions why the equation ##y^2+x^2=c## is considered implicit despite being expressible in terms of ##y##.
  • Another participant explains that an implicit function arises from a relation ##f(x,y) = g(x,y)## and notes that the example given has multiple implicit functions due to the square root leading to both positive and negative solutions.
  • A different participant emphasizes that while some equations allow for straightforward solutions for ##y##, others may not, thus remaining implicitly defined.
  • One participant references the Implicit Function Theorem from Wikipedia, highlighting its role in determining when an expression defines a function implicitly and under what conditions it is continuously differentiable.
  • A participant discusses the conditions for a mapping ##f:X\to\Bbb R## to be determined implicitly by an equation ##F(x,y)=0##, stressing the importance of choosing appropriate subsets ##X## for differentiability in the context of optimal control theory.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of implicit functions and the Implicit Function Theorem. There is no consensus on the implications of these concepts for optimal control theory, and multiple viewpoints regarding the nature and utility of implicit functions are present.

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Participants note the importance of smoothness and differentiability in applying the Implicit Function Theorem, suggesting that certain conditions and restrictions apply to the functions involved.

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Would you please explain what an implicit function in general is? Why ##y^2+x^2=c## is assumed as implicit even though it can be expressed in terms of ##y##?

##y^2=c-x^2## and then ##y=\sqrt |x|##

Thank you.
 
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In general, any function we get by taking a relation ##f(x,y) = g(x,y)## and solving for ##y## is called an implicit function for the relation at hand. But keep in mind that a relation may have more than one implicit function. The example you give i.e. ##x^2 + y^2 = c## has more than one implicit function. If you solve for ##y^2## as you did and you want to get ##y##, you need to take the square root of the right hand side and this leads to one positive square root (one implicit function) and one negative (a second implicit function) for any value you give to ##c##.
 
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You have given an example where it is simple to solve for y (although you need to be careful about 2 possible solutions). But you can also leave it implicitly defined. There are other examples that are much harder to solve for y. If you do not or can not solve for y, then you have an implicit function.
 
Let's work in ##\Bbb R^2##, say. Suppose you had an equation ##F(x,y)=0##. Is there such a subset ## X\subseteq \Bbb R## such that for a fixed ##x\in X## there is a unique ##y## such that the equation is satisfied? If so, we say ##F## determines implicitly a mapping ##f:X\to\Bbb R## (satisfying ##F(x,f(x))=0, x\in X ##). We don't want to pick some funny weird subsets ##X##. We want it to be open so we could talk about differentiability (which is a very strong assumption - the course I took on optimal control theory Heavily relies on smoothness of the object function and the implicit function theorem becomes a powerful weapon - of course, it restricts the choice of ##F##, as well).
 
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