Is Interstellar Travel Possible with Current Propulsion Technology?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the feasibility of interstellar travel using current propulsion technology, particularly focusing on the challenges of fuel requirements and propulsion methods. Participants explore theoretical concepts and practical limitations associated with accelerating a spacecraft to another star.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a spacecraft would need to either carry sufficient propellant for acceleration or collect propellant along the way, raising concerns about the feasibility of both options.
  • Another participant references the Bussard Ramjet concept, indicating that solar irradiation is limited, which may affect propulsion strategies.
  • A different participant argues that the fuel requirements for continuous acceleration and deceleration are prohibitively large, and that collecting fuel from the interstellar medium would be inefficient due to its low density and the energy costs associated with high-speed travel.
  • In contrast, another participant asserts that while current probes like Voyager and Pioneer are slow, there are theoretical concepts that could achieve higher speeds, potentially allowing for interstellar travel within decades using advanced propulsion methods such as fission, fusion, or antimatter.
  • This participant also mentions the possibility of using sail-like structures powered by beams from the solar system as a means of propulsion.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of interstellar travel with current technology, with some emphasizing the significant challenges and others proposing theoretical solutions that could enable such travel.

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Participants highlight limitations related to fuel density in the interstellar medium, the energy costs of accelerating collected fuel, and the practicality of existing propulsion methods for interstellar distances.

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Let's say a ship is beyond Earth's meaningful gravity pull, and has solar panels. Assume that it can collect solar power and use it in a system which blasts propellant away from the ship to accelerate through space. The ship's goal is to leave the solar system and reach a new star, but to continue accelerating for half the distance, and decellerating the remainder, versus just drifting at a constant velocity. To me, this gives us two options:

1. The ship must leave our solar system with enough propellant to continue accelerating. This seems problematic because for every kg of propellant it takes with, the mass grows, negating the benefits of bringing the propellant with.

2. The ship must collect propellant along the way. This seems problematic because the ship is unlikely to encounter an appropriate amount of propellant along its linear path, or to solve the logistical problems associated with capturing them at high speed.

This makes me think it's unlikely we could ever build a ship capable of propelling to another star.

I hope my thinking is flawed?
 
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See Bussard Ramjet. Even at Earth, solar irradiation is only 1350 Watts meter^-2
 
It's extremely unlikely that any interstellar ship will continually accelerate halfway and then decelerate. The amount of fuel required is staggeringly huge. Gathering fuel on the way probably won't work either, as the interstellar medium is not very dense and the faster you're traveling, the less effective this method is. You'll slow down when you gather the fuel since the fuel has to accelerate up to your speed. The faster you go, the more energy this takes.
 
dfinch said:
This makes me think it's unlikely we could ever build a ship capable of propelling to another star.
We can. The Voyager and Pioneer probes are doing exactly this and New Horizons will follow them. They are just all way too slow for practical purposes and won't stay active long enough.

There are concepts that would allow significantly higher speeds - up to ~10% the speed of light, that would allow to reach the nearest stars in decades. Most of them use fission or fusion (some even consider antimatter) as their high energy density allows high exhaust velocities. Some use sail-like structures that would rely on a beam sent from the solar system. See Project Longshot and the various links in the navigation box at the bottom, or Category:Interstellar travel.
 

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