Is it common to submit original diploma?

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The discussion revolves around the common practices regarding the submission of original diplomas or transcripts during the enrollment/application process for graduate programs, particularly in the context of different countries, with a focus on Germany. Participants share their experiences and clarify the requirements for submitting educational documents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the norm of submitting original diplomas in their home country, likening the diploma to a one-in-a-lifetime document.
  • Another participant shares their experience from the mid-1970s in the US, noting that official transcripts were required but no diploma was available at that time.
  • A participant states that typically, a certified copy of the diploma is sufficient for application processes.
  • A contributor from Goethe University in Frankfurt mentions that contacting a professor for PhD supervision allows for enrollment with certified copies, not originals, and provides a link to the university's official statement.
  • Another participant emphasizes that applicants to German programs must have their educational transcripts certified or attested by a local German embassy, clarifying the distinction between application and enrollment processes.
  • This same participant warns against mailing original documents, stating that universities do not accept them and advising students to handle copies instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of submitting original diplomas, with some advocating for certified copies while others highlight the importance of understanding specific institutional requirements. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the general practice across different countries.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the requirements may vary significantly based on the country and institution, and there are distinctions between application and enrollment processes that could affect document submission practices.

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Is it common in your country for the applicants to submit their original diploma/transcript during the enrollment/application period to a graduate program?
I am in the process of enrolling to my PhD and it seems like in the future steps of the enrollment, I will be required to submit my original diploma, and I don't know whether or not they will return it to me. The way people treated diploma in my home country is that it's a one-in-a-lifetime document, pretty much like the birth certificate. So, no one there would ask you to submit the original diploma during any kinds of application process.
 
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maNoFchangE said:
Is it common in your country for the applicants to submit their original diploma/transcript during the enrollment/application period to a graduate program?

When I was applying to graduate schools in the US in the mid 1970s, i.e. long before the Internet, they wanted official copies of my transcript mailed to them directly by the registrar's office of my college. At that point I had not finished my undergraduate degree, so there was no diploma yet. Nowadays they do this by e-mail, using an official college e-mail address.

In a previous thread you wrote that you were planning to do your PhD in Germany. If this is still the case, I'm sure there are people here who are familiar with the German system and can clarify the process for you.
 
Normally, one has to submit a certified copy of a diploma.
 
In my physics depeartment at the university (Goethe University in Frankfurt am Main) usually you contact a professor you are interested to work with towards your PhD. When you have found your thesis adviser there shouldn't be a problem to enroll officially, and that, of course, works with certified copies of your diploma. You don't need to send in originals. Here's the official statement of the university concerning the official application for graduate work ("Promotionsverfahren" in German).

http://www.goethe-university-frankfurt.de/44655545/Doctoral-studies?

In the physics department, of course English is the usual language of the thesis nowadays (that was not the case, when I wrote my thesis in 2000 at the Technical University of Darmstadt; so this has been modernized now, and I guess you can or even should write your doctoral thesis in English in any physics department at German universities). Even Germans write there thesis in English. In our department there are also many non-German speaking postdocs. So even the common language is usually English as soon as anybody is around who doesn't speak English. So don't get distracted from this first item about language Skills in this official statement of the university.
 
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Everyone applying to programs to Germany needs to get their educational transcripts "certified" or "attested" by their local German embassy and then send it in for application.

Enrollment is different and needs insurance, payment of semester fees, etc.

German universities (public authority) can also carry out such "attestations" or "certifications" but since some students aren't in Germany they need to go to their local embassy. There you submit copies and originals and they things to it that can make those copies as "certified" or "attested". So, if you have already applied and are just in the process of enrolment, then you can get this done easily in Germany. Application is different from enrolment! don't confuse them. Enrollment is basically cementing your place as a student after a successful application, you need a valid health insurance among other things for that.

They will not take original documents like a diploma and warn students against mailing original documents.
 

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