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confutatis said:
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Is It Possible for Someone to Be Really Blind and Lie About It?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the concept of blindness, specifically whether a person who is truly blind can lie about their condition. Participants explore definitions of "real blindness," the nature of visual experience, and the implications of these definitions on the ability to deceive regarding one's blindness.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Conceptual clarification
- Exploratory
Main Points Raised
- Some participants propose that "real blindness" is defined as a "lack of visual experience," suggesting that truly blind individuals cannot lie about their blindness.
- Others argue that a person who is not really blind can convincingly appear to be blind, challenging the assertion that they cannot lie about their condition.
- A participant questions the reasoning behind the claim that truly blind people cannot lie, requesting further explanation and clarification of the premises involved.
- Another participant emphasizes that logical arguments should not rely on the reasons behind definitions, asserting that contradictions should be avoided in logical discourse.
- Some participants express skepticism about the ability to define "visual experience" in a way that leads to the conclusion that it is impossible to know if others have visual experiences.
- There is a suggestion that the ability to fake sensory experiences, such as taste, could be more challenging than the original premise implies.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach consensus on the definitions of blindness and visual experience, with multiple competing views remaining. The discussion highlights significant disagreement regarding the implications of these definitions on the ability to lie about one's blindness.
Contextual Notes
Participants express uncertainty about the definitions used and the logical consequences that follow from them. There are unresolved questions about the nature of visual experience and how it relates to the ability to claim blindness.