Is it possible to evenly spaced out objects?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of arranging point masses in a configuration where they are evenly spaced from each other, exploring various geometric arrangements and their implications. The scope includes theoretical considerations of spatial arrangements and packing problems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about achieving equal spacing among point masses, noting that a square grid fails due to unequal distances to nearest neighbors.
  • Another participant suggests considering triangular arrangements as a potential solution.
  • A suggestion is made to explore packing problems as a relevant area of study.
  • Hexagonal arrangements are mentioned, with a reference to bees using hexagons and equilateral triangles for their layout.
  • A participant challenges the initial definition of closest neighbors, arguing that in a square lattice, the nearest neighbors are defined differently than suggested.
  • It is noted that regardless of the chosen geometry, there will always be next-nearest neighbors at greater distances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition of nearest neighbors and the feasibility of achieving equal spacing in various geometric configurations. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing ideas presented.

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There are limitations regarding the definitions of nearest neighbors and the assumptions made about spatial arrangements, which may affect the conclusions drawn by participants.

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I can't figure this out. I mean like all the objects(lets take them as a point mass) must be equally spaced from each. The surrounding nearest point masses from each point mass must be equally separated from that point mass. Square grid doesn't work as 4 out of the 8 closest neighbours are separated from the center diagonally, which is longer than the other 4 that are separated horizontally and vertically. I was thinking grid whereby the squares are replaced by circles by I can't seems to figure out. Is there such a thing?

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Something like this except the circles are connected and not separated as shown above.
 
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Given this and your previous thread you might like to do some background study on packing problems.
 
MrAnchovy said:
Given this and your previous thread you might like to do some background study on packing problems.
Thanks! I will look into that.
 
Think of which triangles tessellate the most evenly.
 
Bees use hexagons...
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Svein said:
Bees use hexagons...
...with their centers laid out in a pattern of equilateral triangles.
 
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TimeRip496 said:
I can't figure this out. I mean like all the objects(lets take them as a point mass) must be equally spaced from each. The surrounding nearest point masses from each point mass must be equally separated from that point mass. Square grid doesn't work as 4 out of the 8 closest neighbours are separated from the center diagonally, which is longer than the other 4 that are separated horizontally and vertically. I was thinking grid whereby the squares are replaced by circles by I can't seems to figure out. Is there such a thing?

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Something like this except the circles are connected and not separated as shown above.
You seem to have some unusual definition of closest neighbors. With the usual definition, in the square lattice each point has 4 closest neighbors (or nearest neighbors). The points on the diagonal are next-nearest neighbors.
No matter what the geometry, you will always have next-nearest and next-next-nearest neighbors and so on, which will be at distances larger that the nearest-neighbor distance. Even in triangular or hexagonal lattice.
 

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