Is it possible to have a single photon ionize an atom of Francium?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of a single photon ionizing an atom of Francium, focusing on the ionization energy required and the conditions under which light emitters can produce x-rays and gamma rays. The scope includes theoretical considerations and the implications of photon energy in relation to atomic ionization and radiation emission.

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  • One participant questions whether the ionization energy of Francium is too high to be achieved with just one photon.
  • Another participant asserts that ionization depends on the energy of a single photon, suggesting that if the photon energy is sufficiently high, ionization is possible.
  • There is a query about the lack of a limit to a photon's energy, with a participant stating that while there is no theoretical limit, practical limits exist based on production processes.
  • Participants discuss the conditions necessary for a light emitter, like tungsten, to produce x-rays and gamma rays, noting that simply increasing temperature may not be sufficient due to material limitations.
  • A formula relating temperature to energy is provided, referencing Boltzmann's constant, but without resolving the specific temperature requirements for emitting x-rays or gamma rays.

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Participants express differing views on the limits of photon energy and the conditions necessary for light emitters to produce high-energy radiation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific temperatures required for x-ray and gamma-ray emission.

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Participants have not defined the specific energy levels for Francium's ionization or the exact temperatures needed for x-ray and gamma-ray emission, leaving these aspects open to interpretation and further exploration.

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Is the ionization energy of Francium to high to be achieved with just one photon?

And another quick question, how hot must the light-emitter get before it begins to emit x-rays, and then how hot for gamma rays?
 
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For the first question, ionization depends on the energy of one photon, not the total energy (photoelectric effect) so the answer is yes if the photon energy is high enough.

I aam not sure what you have in mind for the second question - define light-emitter.
 
mathman said:
For the first question, ionization depends on the energy of one photon, not the total energy (photoelectric effect) so the answer is yes if the photon energy is high enough.

I aam not sure what you have in mind for the second question - define light-emitter.

So there is no limit to a photon's energy?

And when I say light emitter, I mean like the equivalent of tungsten in a light bulb. For something to emit x-rays/gamma rays, what temperature must they reach?
 
Ralphonsicus said:
So there is no limit to a photon's energy?

And when I say light emitter, I mean like the equivalent of tungsten in a light bulb. For something to emit x-rays/gamma rays, what temperature must they reach?
There is no theoretical limit on photon energy - the practical limit is defined by processes which can produce them.

To get x-rays and gamma rays you need different processes - simply heating things up won't work, since things would melt or vaporize before you got high enough temperature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray
 

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