Is Pain Merely a Form of Emotion?

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The discussion explores the nature of pain and its relationship to emotions, questioning whether pain can be classified merely as an emotion. Participants delve into the physiological and psychological aspects of pain, its perception, and the complexities surrounding emotional responses to pain.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that pain may be akin to an emotion, as both can be controlled or managed in similar ways, such as preparing for an anticipated painful experience.
  • Others argue that while pain can be visually identified, it may be more difficult to disguise than other emotions, raising questions about its nature.
  • A participant questions the definition of emotion itself and discusses the complexity of human perception and existence, suggesting that understanding pain may be intertwined with broader existential questions.
  • There is curiosity about whether some individuals might find enjoyment in pain, similar to how some enjoy emotional release, and whether societal norms would accept this perspective.
  • One participant mentions the influence of adrenaline on pain perception, particularly in the context of military training.
  • A clarification is made that the reflex reaction to pain occurs in the spinal cord rather than the brain, indicating a physiological distinction in the processing of pain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the relationship between pain and emotion, with no consensus reached. Some agree on the potential similarities between pain and emotions, while others raise questions and challenge the definitions and implications of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of emotions and pain, and the definitions of these terms are not fully resolved. There are also references to personal experiences and anecdotal evidence that may not be universally applicable.

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Is pain just an emotion?

I understand that pain is brought about by such things like nerve endings sending signals to the brain in an effort to notify us of danger, much like the hand on the oven burner. Hey… it’s hot, might want to move your hand away from the fire.
But the brain confuses dangerous pain (permanently harming the body) with necessary pain (vaccine shots).
You can control pain in much the same way as you can control an emotion. Such as an emotional person cries during a sad movie and a construction worker does not.
You can control your reaction to physical pain by expecting it. If you know someone is going to be sticking a needle in your arm you can prepare for the pain and stunt the brains natural reaction to move away from it.
This to me seems no different than controlling an emotion.

Sorry, just rambling today. This constantly pops into my head.
 
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It's possible. I mean, you can, most of the time, look at someone and tell if they're angry, upset, or sad (emotions). And most of the time, you can look at someone and pretty much see the pain on their face. So, yeah, I guess it's an emotion.

Does this make sense?
 
Visually identifying someone who is in pain should be fairly easy I suppose.

But on the other hand... if someone doesn't want you to know they are sad... can't they just hold back the tears and/or fake happiness to hide their sadness?

Why can we not do the same thing with pain? Is it just a more dominant emotion than all of the rest, much harder to disguise?
 
Pain is an obssessive compelling emotion. But the biggest question is - what constitutes an emotion? A short pulse of electricity in a "body" that's otherwise made of quadrillion of opposite electrical charges? The prospect of us ever finding out the full picture of what causes the perception of physical/objective reality looks quite hopeless. You cannot but be amazed at the level of complexity of a human being, or even of a Neanderthal. Even 300 000 years ago they possessed bodies composed of more than 100 trillion cells(a human body is composed of 100 trillion), running altogether more than a quadrillion operations per second in full sync(metabolism, cell repair, cell division, oxygen transfusion, etc). It's frightening to what lengths nature/god has to go to produce this assumed to be meaningless and pointless perception of life/existence. It's hard to say which is true - that the complexity is too great or if we are still too dumb, descending from dumb creatures that hanged for hours from the branches of trees in Africa. But if they had more intelligence to understand what was going on, instead of just relying on their innate survival instincts, they wouldn't put up with their quite miserable painful lives and would commit a mass suicide.(i expect scores of folks to jump on me and explain how their brains were wired differently to find enjoyment in their way of life, regardless how miserable it was).

I can't find the author of the quote, but it was related to the question if we can know everything, and it was to the effect of:

"We can't find all the answers about the system while we are a part of it." (Heisenberg?)
 
Nicely said Wave.

What I'm curious about is the desire to enjoy the feeling of pain, much like someone might enjoy a good cry every once in awhile. If it's nothing more than an emotion... it would seem to be possible.

Or would society be against that? =)
 
Is flatulence an emotion? If so, I'm telepathic.
 
CaptainQuasar said:
Is flatulence an emotion? If so, I'm telepathic.
Yes it is, and I'm skilled in remote viewing (smelling). Stay away until you cut back on the beans and cabbage.
 
P4PPY said:
Nicely said Wave.

What I'm curious about is the desire to enjoy the feeling of pain, much like someone might enjoy a good cry every once in awhile. If it's nothing more than an emotion... it would seem to be possible.

Or would society be against that? =)

Yes. I've seen and met Marines that actually entice you because they enjoy the feeling of pain. But, then again, they've all got a few loose wires because of the war. But, whatever floats your boat...
 
<-- Marine :)

I think you bringing that up reminded me of some of the training back in the early days and how adrenaline can effect your perception of pain.
 
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<-- Marine :)

I think you bringing that up reminded me of some of the training back in the early days and how adrenaline can effect your perception of pain.

No problem. Care to share? Maybe the answers locked inside your training. After all I've seen drill seargeants wearing shirts that say "pain is weakness leaving the body"
 
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Hey… it’s hot, might want to move your hand away from the fire.

This reaction doesn't actually take place in the brain though, but rather somewhere in your spinal cord
 

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