Is Pi Actually Transcendental?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of π (pi) and its classification as a transcendental number. Participants explore mathematical expressions involving π and engage in a dialogue about the implications of its transcendental status, including the correctness of specific algebraic manipulations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation involving π and complex numbers, questioning its correctness.
  • Another participant challenges the initial claim, asserting that the equation implies an incorrect relationship for π.
  • A third participant suggests that simply stating π is transcendental would have sufficed, implying that the detailed algebra was unnecessary.
  • In response, a participant expresses enjoyment in using LaTeX for mathematical expressions.
  • Further commentary reflects on the nature of mathematical expressions and their interpretations, particularly regarding real and imaginary components.
  • A participant shares a seemingly unrelated thought about a mathematician's activities, indicating a playful tone in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and correctness of the mathematical expressions presented. There is no consensus on the validity of the initial equation or the approach taken in discussing π's transcendental nature.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that algebraic expressions can be misleading, and there are unresolved questions regarding the implications of π's transcendental status in the context of the presented equations.

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is this correct

-(pi) + (1 - 2i)((pi)^2) = i^2

i = (-1)^(1/2)
(pi)= 3.142...

peace
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No, this is not correct. You are saying that
\pi + (1-2 i)\pi^2=-1
which would imply that
\pi=\left(\mp\frac{1}{10}\pm\frac{i}{5}\right)\left(\mp 1+\sqrt{8i-3}\right)
which is clearly not the case...
 
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Saying pi is transcendental would have saved you all that latexing...
 
But I like LaTeX'ing! :)
 
matt:

saying only that pi is transcendental
could make suvey feel more good
with his nice effort to explain the answer.

Moshek
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Erm, what the heck does that mean? Perhaps I was offering a tongue in cheek way of pointing out that the answer could be done in far fewer steps, and without making a statement that needs to be checked. Algebraic expressions don't always look like they ought to; I can think of several expressions that appear to have non-zero imaginary part, yet are real.
 
Matt:

I am still thinking about your question to me if a mathematician is going to the toilet is he also doing mathematics by this.

Until I will have the exact answer for you

you may enjoy to read this:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=17243

Moshek
 

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