Is Science Limited in Explaining the Universe's Origins?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the limitations of science in explaining the origins of the universe, touching on philosophical and theological implications. Participants explore various viewpoints regarding the necessity of a creator or supreme being and the implications of such beliefs on scientific understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that dismissing the idea of a creator as "religious" is limiting and that science has not answered all questions regarding the universe's origins.
  • Others challenge the notion of a supreme being, questioning who or what created that being if it is posited as the origin of everything.
  • There are discussions about the complexity of existence and the concept of something coming from nothing, with some expressing discomfort with substituting a supreme being for the unknown origins of the universe.
  • Several participants engage in light-hearted banter, using humor to discuss serious topics, including references to religious education and political commentary.
  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about successfully advocating against mandatory religious education, indicating a broader context of the discussion around science and religion.
  • Some posts diverge into unrelated humorous exchanges, including references to food and lighthearted insults, which may detract from the main topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the existence of a creator or the adequacy of scientific explanations for the universe's origins. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of existence, the definitions of a supreme being, and the limitations of scientific inquiry, which are not fully explored or agreed upon by participants.

  • #31
Ivan Seeking said:
After several years of observation, Tsu and I decided that our largest dog galumphed. The proper order is walking, galumphing, trotting, cantering, and galloping. :biggrin:

Galumphing is also what dogs do when they're at that awkward age between puppy and adult (doggy teenagers?) when they have big feet and skinny legs and can't decide if they want to walk or bounce. :biggrin:
 
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  • #32
Ivan Seeking said:
Tsu and I decided that our largest dog galumphed.
I thought only hephalumps did that. :confused:
 
  • #33
Where did Kirk go?

No worries because we will see him in hell. :rolleyes:
 
  • #34
JasonRox said:
Where did Kirk go?
Don't you ever watch 'Charmed'? Don't invoke his name, you fool! It might bring him back! :eek:
 
  • #35
I looked at this thread and saw how many pages of posts had occurred during my absence, so had to take a look--thank goodness it was just the usual "thread jacking."
 
  • #36
SOS2008 said:
thank goodness it was just the usual "thread jacking."
I've grown to consider 'thread-jacking' a fun sport, but this one was essential for the survival of civilization. :approve:
 
  • #37
Kirk Gregory Czuhai said:
well seems for at least the time being we have some going to HELL!

*shakes in boots*
 
  • #38
infidel said:
Kirk Gregory Czuhai said:
well seems for at least the time being we have some going to HELL!
peace and love,
and,
love and peace,
(kirk) kirk gregory czuhai
*shakes in boots*
I honestly don't know if this was the most annoying hoax I've ever encountered, or if the little freakazoid really believes himself. :confused:
 
  • #39
http://www.hell2u.com/about.php

Ive been to Hell , its near Jackson Michigan.
 
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  • #40
hypatia said:
http://www.hell2u.com/about.php

Ive been to Hell , its near Jackson Michigan.

I've been there too and got lost there, at night. Kept going in circles somehow and couldn't get out. Talk about an omen! :devil:
 
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  • #41
I thought only hephalumps did that.

Nope, they steal my hunny when I'm dreaming.
 
  • #42
hypatia said:
http://www.hell2u.com/about.php

Ive been to Hell , its near Jackson Michigan.
You are so wrong - you clearly have never been to southern Mississippi.
 
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  • #43
russ_watters said:
You are so wrong - you clearly have never been to southern Mississippi.
I was about to say, before you jumped on it, that anything with the word "Jackson" in it must be cursed. I don't know about that Florida town, though.
 
  • #44
Hell is located in Nevada, near Sparks. In fact, you can see Sparks from Hell.
 
  • #45
Ivan Seeking said:
Hell is located in Nevada, near Sparks. In fact, you can see Sparks from Hell.

You mean there's more than one Hell? Hmm..Nevada sounds better than Michigan to me. At least in NV, I can take some side trips to Vegas! :biggrin:
 
  • #46
Moonbear said:
You mean there's more than one Hell? Hmm..Nevada sounds better than Michigan to me. At least in NV, I can take some side trips to Vegas! :biggrin:
It somehow seems appropriate to have Hell so close to Vegas. :-p
 
  • #47
Have you seen the lastest Vegas slogan?

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

They are actually selling the idea that you can go to Vegas and act as if there were no consequences. Funny thing is, some guys who make a living by traveling have something known as the code of the road: "What goes on the road stays on the road."

[edit] Whoops, I think I broke the code by telling about it. Oh well, I'm done traveling. :biggrin:
 
  • #48
russ_watters said:
You are so wrong - you clearly have never been to southern Mississippi.
:smile:
Ivan Seeking said:
Hell is located in Nevada, near Sparks. In fact, you can see Sparks from Hell.
:smile:
Moonbear said:
You mean there's more than one Hell? Hmm..Nevada sounds better than Michigan to me. At least in NV, I can take some side trips to Vegas! :biggrin:
Yes. In Michigan, that's when "hell freezes over" and southern Mississippi is the "gnawing and gnashing" hell. Nevada is the more traditional "fire and brimstone" hell. There's another hell, the one where bats fly out of...can't remember...
 
  • #49
Andre said:
Nope, they steal my hunny when I'm dreaming.
If there's any hunny-stealing to be done around here, I'll have you know, it'll be done by me. (By the way, what's she look like?)
 
  • #50
SOS2008 said:
There's another hell, the one where bats fly out of...
That, I believe, would be Artman's belfry. :biggrin:
 
  • #51
SOS2008 said:
:smile:
:smile:
Yes. In Michigan, that's when "hell freezes over" and southern Mississippi is the "gnawing and gnashing" hell. Nevada is the more traditional "fire and brimstone" hell. There's another hell, the one where bats fly out of...can't remember...

Thanks for clarifying. I wouldn't want to go to the wrong one!
 
  • #52
Moonbear said:
Thanks for clarifying. I wouldn't want to go to the wrong one!
Aren't they all interconnected? I'm pretty sure the New York subway system runs through a couple of them.
 
  • #53
I can take some side trips


Side trips from Hell..sounds like the making of a B movie..lol
 
  • #54
hypatia said:
Side trips from Hell..sounds like the making of a B movie..lol
...or a new thread. :rolleyes:
 
  • #55
hypatia said:
Side trips from Hell..sounds like the making of a B movie..lol
Very formula. The women is running, trips and hurts her ankle, and the secondary characters all go to hell one by one--in Michigan, then Vegas, etc., but in the end, the main characters make it out... -- That movie?
 
  • #56
Directors Cut.

The woman is running in high heels and a evening gown. She trips and hurts her ankle, and the secondary characters{bad men} all go to hell one by one--in Michigan, but in the end, the main characters make out, :cool: in Vegas, and also win ONE MILLION DOLLARS playing the BLAZEN SLOTS. Which of course condems there souls to purgatory
 
  • #57
Kirk Gregory Czuhai said:
well seems for at least the time being we have some going to HELL!
peace and love,
and,
love and peace,
(kirk) kirk gregory czuhai

wow. um... you sound like some kinda suicidal religious zelot, like those wako guys that janet reno toarched. perhaps congress will pass a law about you.

Have a nice day?
Fibonacci :rolleyes:
 
  • #58
hypatia said:
Directors Cut.

The woman is running in high heels and a evening gown. She trips and hurts her ankle, and the secondary characters{bad men} all go to hell one by one--in Michigan, but in the end, the main characters make out, :cool: in Vegas, and also win ONE MILLION DOLLARS playing the BLAZEN SLOTS. Which of course condems there souls to purgatory

Which state is Purgatory in?
 
  • #59
Moonbear said:
Which state is Purgatory in?
Colorado. Kind of ironic name for a ski resort. :confused:
 
  • #60
Danger said:
Colorado. Kind of ironic name for a ski resort. :confused:
You beat me to it, but how could you miss the "Blazen Slots" after the play on words changing "make it out" to "make out"? So not like you... :-p
 

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